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Re: Pentagon confirms Koran incidents... [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #4228792 - 05/28/05 12:01 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

huh?

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Re: Pentagon confirms Koran incidents... [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #4229350 - 05/28/05 05:50 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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How muslims feel about their texts is irrelevant.

Who cares about how they feel?




That attitude is why they hate us. Even if you're joking, you just crystalized it, right there.




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Re: Pentagon confirms Koran incidents... [Re: Learyfan]
    #4229572 - 05/28/05 09:58 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not joking. I really don't give a shit about their stupid little book.


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Re: Pentagon confirms Koran incidents... [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #4230030 - 05/28/05 12:49 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm not joking. I really don't give a shit about their stupid little book.



Nor anyone's book.


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Re: Pentagon confirms Koran incidents... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #4230134 - 05/28/05 01:32 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Exactly.

Now if they were forcing them to step on cracks thereby breaking their mothers' backs, then that would be cruelty. :smirk:

For that matter, if they were forcing the prisoners to desicrate their own book, that would be over the line in my book.

If they were forcing the prisoners to wipe their asses with pages from the Bible, then that would be kind of funny.


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Re: Pentagon confirms Koran incidents... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #4230307 - 05/28/05 02:52 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm not joking. I really don't give a shit about their stupid little book.



Nor anyone's book.




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Re: Pentagon confirms Koran incidents... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #4230970 - 05/28/05 06:05 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I thought we cared about these people.  :smirk:

Unless I'm behind on the times, the latest justification for the war is that we're liberating the Iraqis from a brutal dictator.  If we really care about the Iraqis, we can not do something that strikes at the soul of these people.  They're already a little on edge as it is.  If we ever hope to have even pockets of acceptance in Iraq, then we need to be very respectful of these people's superstitions.







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Re: Pentagon confirms Koran incidents... [Re: Learyfan]
    #4231708 - 05/28/05 09:13 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Did you write that cartoon?


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Re: Pentagon confirms Koran incidents... [Re: Learyfan]
    #4232761 - 05/29/05 08:23 AM (19 years, 30 days ago)

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Will you conceed that Newsweek was right all along?




WTF?

Of course not. None of these more detailed revelations in any way shape or form corroborate Newsweek's story. At worst, they indicate to just what absurd lengths those in charge of Gitmo are willing to go in order to pander to homicidal religious nutbars. The more of these articles I read the angrier I get because they show the absurd lengths to which the military allows itself to be manipulated. It almost beggars belief.



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Re: Pentagon confirms Koran incidents... [Re: Phred]
    #4232799 - 05/29/05 08:48 AM (19 years, 30 days ago)

Just checking.








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Re: Pentagon confirms Koran incidents... [Re: myndreach]
    #4235229 - 05/30/05 12:35 AM (19 years, 29 days ago)

Lets take their fucking Korans away from them. It's funny how we see this as so evil, but noone is mentioning the fact tat we are letting them have their holy book.


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Re: Pentagon confirms Koran incidents... [Re: Learyfan]
    #4236129 - 05/30/05 09:35 AM (19 years, 29 days ago)

I think this is overshadowing the fact that we have been shown no evidence that these men are guilty of anything or belong in prison.


That's the issue, not "Mom, Billy's touching by holy book!"


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Re: Pentagon confirms Koran incidents... [Re: SoopaX]
    #4236532 - 05/30/05 12:11 PM (19 years, 29 days ago)

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Lets take their fucking Korans away from them. It's funny how we see this as so evil, but no one is mentioning the fact tat we are letting them have their holy book.




This kind of attitude is why they're killing our soldiers.

Baby Hitler: You may be right, but that's another thread all together. I don't know if it's possible for anyone to find out if these people are at Gbay for legitimate reasons.






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Re: Pentagon confirms Koran incidents... [Re: Learyfan]
    #4236597 - 05/30/05 12:38 PM (19 years, 29 days ago)


This kind of attitude is why they're killing our soldiers.



They are killing ours soldiers because they don't like our attitude?


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Re: Pentagon confirms Koran incidents... [Re: looner2]
    #4236671 - 05/30/05 01:10 PM (19 years, 29 days ago)

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This kind of attitude is why they're killing our soldiers.



They are killing ours soldiers because they don't like our attitude?




We're invading their country and murdering their family members. If we're going to do that under the guise of "liberating" and "freeing" them, we need to show them that we care about them. By desecrating their religion, we're sending the message that we are occupiers who care nothing about these people or their superstitions/traditions.

This whole macho, cowboy, "do what we say or else" attitude is not going to help convince them that we mean well. It only proves that we're well mean. As long as we are seen as occupiers, our soldiers will be killed.





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Re: Pentagon confirms Koran incidents... [Re: Learyfan]
    #4236860 - 05/30/05 02:02 PM (19 years, 29 days ago)

I don't care about their people, and most of the U.S doesn't. Why should we lie about it? That doesn't change the fact that most people (not me) believe that it is the morally right thing to rebuild the country after ousting the dictator who threatened us.

I think they should be happy we still have soldiers in there putting their lives on the line to stop the terrorists from blowing the country up. Give me a break about being mean.


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Re: Pentagon confirms Koran incidents... [Re: looner2]
    #4237081 - 05/30/05 03:00 PM (19 years, 29 days ago)

Morality aside, it is in our interest to see a free and democratic state exist in the heart of Islam.


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Re: Pentagon confirms Koran incidents... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #4237598 - 05/30/05 06:00 PM (19 years, 29 days ago)

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Morality aside, it is in our interest to see a free and democratic state exist in the heart of Islam.




You are most likely right.

But is it worth shedding the blood of a single U.S soldier?

NO!

Removing Saddam and threat of WMDs in fear of an imminent threat is a cause that has a direct correlation with our safety. I won't bother arguing if it was right or not here, but I can see where the war is justified in defending our nation from a threat.

That is much different then an obscure attempt at nation-building and democracy spreading to a region where the people neither deserve, nor appreciate what it has to offer.

I wouldn't want to die for an iraqi voting in hope that someday it will prevent terrorists from killing us, would you? It is too vague.

There are concrete enemies hiding in caves and coordinating attacks that better serve as the recipients of our wrath.


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Re: Pentagon confirms Koran incidents... [Re: looner2]
    #4237666 - 05/30/05 06:23 PM (19 years, 29 days ago)

I disagree. The rewards of our showing resoluteness will be reaped for decades. We have too long been perceived as Vietnam-shy. We all know that the continental Europeans are craven cowards, willing to sell out to the first ransom demand, but there will definitely be more than a kernel of doubt in any overly ambitious dictators mind regarding the consequences of their acts. No longer can they automaticly assume that America will tolerate their heinous acts.


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Re: Pentagon confirms Koran incidents... [Re: looner2]
    #4237703 - 05/30/05 06:33 PM (19 years, 29 days ago)

So you're saying it's ok to kill children to make yourself safer?


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