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WBS and PF cakes Mixed Casing Grow Log *PICS*
    #4223512 - 05/26/05 07:07 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

So I decided I had to make this casing because I keep hearing different things whenever I ask. My question is: If you mix WBS and BRF cakes in the same casing, will the added nutes be better than either by itself.

Some people have told me that of course, different things for mushies to munch on will be better(this is what I think). Then others say that they will "compete" with each other and have smaller mushies.

This will not be terribly scientific since I am not that good at this yet. I was going to do plain WBS casings and plain BRF casings.. but I just ordered a shitload of.. poo.  :wink: And it will need plenty of spawn once it arrives. So really this isn't much of an experiment..

But anyways. Here is what I did.
I took a 1/2 pint of colonized WBS and 1/2 pint of colonized BRF, both B+ strain. I dunked the BRF cake for 12 hours in cold water. I laid a 1/2-3/4 inch casing layer on the bottom of a rubbermaid deep dish disposable container. The casing is 50/50+ (verm and moss, with powdered oyster shell). Then I crumbled the BRF cake into 1/4-1/2 inch cubes and spread evenly over the bottom casing. Then on top of that I crumbled the WBS cake and tried to make it as flat and even as possible. I topped it off with 1/2inch of 50/50+ casing. Covered with tinfoil and placed in my big green TiT.  :smile:


The TiT is kept at a near constant 84 degrees. It varies ~1 either direction.


End View


Side View

UPDATE 5/27----------------------------------------------

After 1 day in the incubator. Already several spots are growing through the casing and will need patching.

UPDATE 5-28----------------------------------------------

Sorry the top view is way out of focus. I snapped the pics real quick so my friend could borrow the camera. O well.. But you can still see all the little mycellium popping up everywhere :laugh:


I took this side view which came out much better. You can see how the two substrates have 'healed' together.

I patched a little and then placed it in the fruiting chamber surrounded by ice packs. I didn't want to use the fridge because.. well .. if you saw it you would understand... and it's not worth trying to clean the fridge right now. So that will be my 'cold shock'. Can't wait to see what pops up.  :wink:

UPDATE 6-1 ------------------------------------------------------

Sorry that I have not been able to post pictures. I loaned my camera to a friend for Memorial Weekend and he just got it back to me. So here are the latest pics.


Everything is coming up quite nicely and it seems pretty even. Hopefully I will get a really nice pinset.


The two substrates have continued to network with each other and seems like they are doing fine with each other. Only time will tell if the combined substrate is really a success.

UPDATE 6-2 --------------------------------------

Not too much to talk about. I have been asking nicely for it to pin soon.. ...

UPDATE 6-3---------------------
Asking nicely paid off.. the first pins :loveeyes:

Just a few pins .. but they are really there.. look close. :smile:


Didn't quite see it at first.. that's a pretty sight.
I know the pics don't match very well.. I'm not so good with the camera.. and it is kinda cheap anyways... Sorry about that.

UPDATE 6-4 ----------------------------
Wow. Very happy with my pinset. Pics say it all.  :grin:

-- Warning --Pin Porn Below--







UPDATE 6-5 ----------------------------

They just grow up so fast :tripping:
Temps are kept ~21 celcius. Humidity is at 85%. Light 12/12.
I have actually gone against normal advice.. I have been misting the pins and the casing. However, I have a fan inside the chamber that I run until the water is evaporated.. blown off of.. the pins. It usually takes about 20 minutes. So I think as long as the water is not allowed to sit on the pins they will be fine. But just what I think.. feel free to disagree. We will see how they turn out.

UPDATE 6-6 -------------------------------
What a difference a day makes! Not even 24 hours later... and look at em. :smile: Hopefully they will get nice and fat.. mmmmm.


6-7 LAST UPDATE - Harvest ----------------------------
So it's done now. Pretty happy with my first grow. :smile:
It weighed in at around [EDIT: Hmm.. I just checked my crappy plastic scale.. and I don't trust it at all now.. I will weigh them once they are dry on my friends real scale]. But there really wasn't much more room for them to grow. It was pretty crowded in there as you can see from the pics. But that doesn't seem to bad for a 5/6th pint casing. Anyone else have some numbers to compare? Like a 1pint BRF casing.. 1pint WBS casing?
On to the pics...




So I just wanted to say thanks to everyone... Everyone.. that is a part of this community. I think it is quite amazing that I came into this with no knowledge of the subject what so ever.. and this is the result of my first attempt. Not bad guys. Long live the :mushroom2::mushroom2: Shroomery! :mushroom2::mushroom2:

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Edited by Quiescence (06/08/05 09:00 PM)


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Re: WBS and PF cakes Mixed Casing Grow Log *PICS* [Re: Quiescence]
    #4225103 - 05/27/05 02:57 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I hope you don't plan to fruit from tubs like that (the small one you're holding I mean). If you do you'll get side- and bottom-grows because shrooms grow towards light.


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Re: WBS and PF cakes Mixed Casing Grow Log *PICS* [Re: CaptAmazing]
    #4225117 - 05/27/05 03:00 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

you will be fine using that tub. Just tape it up or you will be tipping the casing out to pic that mushrooms that form there


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Stop experimenting half way through your first grow. Grow it to maturity, watch it, learn from it. Do this a few times then experiment with different ideas and figure out what works best for you.


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Re: WBS and PF cakes Mixed Casing Grow Log *PICS* [Re: tahoe]
    #4225183 - 05/27/05 03:19 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Heh, thanks for the concern Capt. But I can't really take pics while the aluminum is on :wink:
Not to worry.. its nice and warm and tucked into bed. :smile:

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Re: WBS and PF cakes Mixed Casing Grow Log *PICS* [Re: Quiescence]
    #4228331 - 05/27/05 11:57 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

-UPDATED-


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Re: WBS and PF cakes Mixed Casing Grow Log *PICS* [Re: Quiescence]
    #4231802 - 05/28/05 11:37 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

UPDATED - Placed in fruiting chamber


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Re: WBS and PF cakes Mixed Casing Grow Log *PICS* [Re: Quiescence]
    #4246349 - 06/02/05 01:08 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Updated after the long weekend with no camera... Pins coming soon..  :shroomer:


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Re: WBS and PF cakes Mixed Casing Grow Log *PICS* [Re: Quiescence]
    #4253487 - 06/03/05 08:58 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

UPDATE--- First PINS!
Someone say something.. I'm sick of seeing my big blue eye..... I may have to change that...

~Quiescence~


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Re: WBS and PF cakes Mixed Casing Grow Log *PICS* [Re: Quiescence]
    #4253574 - 06/03/05 09:18 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

nice pins, hope you get some nice flushes. there appears to be more there than a few. if i am seeing correctly seems as though there is alot of primordia popping here and there.
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Re: WBS and PF cakes Mixed Casing Grow Log *PICS* [Re: Quiescence]
    #4257504 - 06/04/05 11:23 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Update -- PIN PORN


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Re: WBS and PF cakes Mixed Casing Grow Log *PICS* [Re: Quiescence]
    #4257805 - 06/05/05 12:47 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Looking good  :thumbup:
Can't wait to see them all grown up.


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Re: WBS and PF cakes Mixed Casing Grow Log *PICS* [Re: Ol_Mr_Owl]
    #4257818 - 06/05/05 12:51 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Nice :thumbup:

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Re: WBS and PF cakes Mixed Casing Grow Log *PICS* [Re: Quiescence]
    #4262206 - 06/06/05 01:31 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Updated.. All I see is my blue eye...

Big Pins pic added. :grin:


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Re: WBS and PF cakes Mixed Casing Grow Log *PICS* [Re: Quiescence]
    #4265861 - 06/07/05 12:13 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Updated -- Almost ready now.. just another day or two.


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Re: WBS and PF cakes Mixed Casing Grow Log *PICS* [Re: Quiescence]
    #4265921 - 06/07/05 12:28 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Your pin porn had me saying "Oh thats beautiful" out loud, nice stuff.


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Re: WBS and PF cakes Mixed Casing Grow Log *PICS* [Re: beyondsisxth]
    #4265965 - 06/07/05 12:36 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

:blush:

Thanks.. I think it's pretty sexy myself :wink:


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Re: WBS and PF cakes Mixed Casing Grow Log *PICS* [Re: Quiescence]
    #4266007 - 06/07/05 12:46 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Hell yea...

But why mix with Pf? For better water retention + a little bit of extra nutes? :smirk:

Looking good :thumbup:

Taking any prints? :grin:

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Re: WBS and PF cakes Mixed Casing Grow Log *PICS* [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4266033 - 06/07/05 12:53 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Those are the two basic ideas. The PF cake was dunked.. so it has the nice water heavy verm in it. Then the WBS gives it the better nutes. Also, I posted like two or three times asking similar questions about mixing casings.. and everytime someone would say.. No that will make small crappy mushrooms. Then someone would say.. I think it's good. SO.. I had to see for myself. So far, I would say they look pretty good. But maybe they will just stop suddenly or something .. so we shall see the final results..

This is a pretty small casing.. only 1 pint. Actually, a bit less than 1 pint.. because the PF cake I used had a bigger than normal verm layer.. and the WBS jar was not full. So it's like 5/6 pint casing.

I have my eye on about 4 of em for printing. I will let you know.. :wink:

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Re: WBS and PF cakes Mixed Casing Grow Log *PICS* [Re: Quiescence]
    #4266045 - 06/07/05 12:58 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Well, of course it'd work lol...

Myc. will take hold of just about anything....

I personally would have throw in some Burglar(sp) Wheat to help....You're lacking lots of tryphans since you added Brf...

I read that the burgular(sp) wheat has 6x the amount that rye has...:smirk:

Gl man, looking awesome

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Re: WBS and PF cakes Mixed Casing Grow Log *PICS* [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4266085 - 06/07/05 01:09 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Heh.. funny you mention that. Bulgur wheat is my new favorite friend. I love bluhoney's tek. I have 24 pints that I just knocked up with her bulgur wheat substrate with some quinoa added for good measure.  :grin:

I'm sure those will blow this casing away.. I just had to do this casing because of.....

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lordoftheshroomz said:
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Quiescence said:
I just want to try mixing a WBS cake with a BRF cake..



dont mix it with the brf cake as the two jars have seperate substrains which will make for competition.... jus fruit the brf cake seperately and case/spawn the wbs seperately




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Edited by Quiescence (06/07/05 01:10 AM)


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