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A General Question - would this method work
    #4223106 - 05/26/05 05:04 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

for humidity, i was going to layer the bottom of the casing tray with perlite, maybe 1/4 inch, then put wet verm on top of that, then the colonized substrate, and then the casing layer. would the perlite be effective if i did this? i want the humidity to be around 82% i think, less risk of contams then...

i'm going to enclose each casing in clearwrap, using rods about 7inch high to tie the clearwrap around. each casing will have their seperate terrarium, in a sense.

but would perlite under a layer of maybe 1/2 inch wet verm be alright and effective? the substrate wouldn't be growing directly on the perlite then


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Re: A General Question - would this method work [Re: Godspeed]
    #4223113 - 05/26/05 05:05 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

for get the perlite use jus plain old wet verm


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Re: A General Question - would this method work [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #4223119 - 05/26/05 05:07 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

isn't the humidity a factor though, or will the casing layer itself take care of that


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Re: A General Question - would this method work [Re: Godspeed]
    #4223120 - 05/26/05 05:07 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

If you are going to have a verm. layer, I don't really understand why you would want perlite under that?
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Re: A General Question - would this method work [Re: Godspeed]
    #4223129 - 05/26/05 05:09 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Humidity is a factor. The humidity the casing is fruited in. Not the internal humidity of the casing.
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Re: A General Question - would this method work [Re: HippieChick]
    #4223165 - 05/26/05 05:20 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

you should have just the wet verm on the bottom to keep the casing itself moist. then outside of the caseing, use the perlite to keep the surrounding air humid. using the perlite under the verm seems to be less effective as having it outside the casing


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Re: A General Question - would this method work [Re: HippieChick]
    #4223166 - 05/26/05 05:20 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

what i'm asking though is if the perlite layer will help with humidity. it's beneath three layers, would it still be effective for keeping the the humidity up in the chamber the casings fruiting in

i don't want to put the substrate right on the perlite


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Re: A General Question - would this method work [Re: Hengman]
    #4223197 - 05/26/05 05:30 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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you should have just the wet verm on the bottom to keep the casing itself moist. then outside of the caseing, use the perlite to keep the surrounding air humid. using the perlite under the verm seems to be less effective as having it outside the casing




would it work somewhat though? because the casing is going to enclosed, nothing outside of the tray


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Re: A General Question - would this method work [Re: Godspeed]
    #4223201 - 05/26/05 05:31 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

no


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Re: A General Question - would this method work [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #4223227 - 05/26/05 05:37 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/7972

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1. Create Casing Mixture: mix 1/2 peat moss, 1/2 vermiculite, and a small amount of calcium (oyster shell) and add water until moist, not wet.

2. sterilize casing mixture (bake in foil covered pan in oven, microwave in plastic, etc)

3. Pour 1/2"+ perlite in bottom of fruiting pan and add 1/4"+ of water in bottom.

4. Sterilize pan with perlite (saran wrap over top and microwave, or foil and bake)
5. Let pan and casing cool completely.

6. Sterilize hands and wear latex gloves

7. Crumble cakes (hands and/or sterilized blade) over perlite layer and cover with saran wrap.

8. Let cakes on perlite stand for 24+ hours in darkened area until you can see mycelium growth continue.

9. Cover crumbled cakes with sterilized casing about 1/2"

10. Cover fruiting pan with saran wrap or foil and poke small holes.
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- evidentally it works...


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Re: A General Question - would this method work [Re: Godspeed]
    #4223235 - 05/26/05 05:39 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

do wut u please... i wouldnt do it....wont help with water retention.... why ask if u were jus gonna read about it and totally disregard everyones advice


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Re: A General Question - would this method work [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #4223247 - 05/26/05 05:42 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

because it doesnt seem logical to me, that is why i'm asking. i was wondering why they'd post it as a tek if it would effect the water retention in the casing...i've thought of that and that's partially what i'm questioning


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Re: A General Question - would this method work [Re: Godspeed]
    #4223253 - 05/26/05 05:43 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

then dont do it! take our advice for what its worth, im done with this thread


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Re: A General Question - would this method work [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #4223271 - 05/26/05 05:49 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

well, i'd like to do it. it would be convenient - this is why i'm questioning the tek and the method at hand. it doesn't make much sense really, the perlite sucks moisture from the casing and that's not desirable, but thanks for being a bastard, in end regard, while i thought through it.


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Re: A General Question - would this method work [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #4223273 - 05/26/05 05:49 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Forget about that bottom layer of perlite, I don't see how it would help. Then again, maybe that guy knows something no one else does. But I have never heard anyone talking about putting perlite on the very bottom of the fruiting pan. Verm yes, but not perlite.


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Re: A General Question - would this method work [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #4223300 - 05/26/05 05:57 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

you can follow the tek if you want, and honestly, i've never experienced using casings, yet. but from what i've learned, perlite is a microrobe or some shit like that. which means it is very porous. therefore increasing the amount of air touching the water, which will lead to higher rate of evaporation. i suggest not to put the perlite on the bottom of pan.


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