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OfflineChillocybin
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Very Upsetting
    #4222620 - 05/26/05 02:59 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I created 4 1/2 pint PF jars with 2:1:1 verm:brf:h2o and pressure cooked at 10 psi for 1.5 hours. I inoculated the next day with GT spores from sporeworks. The jars have been sitting in my closet for one week and five days and I've seen no growth except for one contamination, which is okay because I grew something, i guess?! I dunno where I went wrong but I think I may stop trying. Any advice and/or similar experiences?


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Re: Very Upsetting [Re: Chillocybin]
    #4222626 - 05/26/05 03:01 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Many fail for the first time. If its not worth trying again, give up. If its worth it to you, work on it until you succeed.


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Re: Very Upsetting [Re: Chillocybin]
    #4222627 - 05/26/05 03:01 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Do you have any idea of the temp in your closet?


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Re: Very Upsetting [Re: Chillocybin]
    #4222633 - 05/26/05 03:02 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Don't give up!! Did you do everything by the book? Give us some more details. I know it is very frustrating when it doesn't work because it happened to me more than once. But trust me when it does work, it's ALL worth it :smile:


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Re: Very Upsetting [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #4222635 - 05/26/05 03:03 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I do not know the temperature in my closet, but my room temperature is usually around 79-84 degrees.


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Re: Very Upsetting [Re: Chillocybin]
    #4222642 - 05/26/05 03:04 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I'd go to a petstore or walmart and buy a 2 dollar thermometer just so I could see what's going on in there.


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Re: Very Upsetting [Re: Chillocybin]
    #4222649 - 05/26/05 03:06 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I did everything pretty much by the book. I followed the Simple Cubensis Growing Technique found on Mycotopia. The spores should be good, being from Sporeworks, right?


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Re: Very Upsetting [Re: Chillocybin]
    #4222656 - 05/26/05 03:08 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah your spores should be good. Get yourself a thermometer like Whitey said and put them jars in a TiT ASAP, then you should see some growth if it's not too late.


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Re: Very Upsetting [Re: Chillocybin]
    #4222660 - 05/26/05 03:10 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not a expert but I really think you're having a incubation problem. Perhaps temps are way higher than you think in your closet or maybe they're way lower.

Over 86 will kill spores
And if I under stand this correctly, anything under 80 will take weeks to develop. At least that's my understanding.


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Re: Very Upsetting [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #4222680 - 05/26/05 03:15 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

86 is the recommended upper limit for incubation, I believe mycelium can survive well into the upper 90s, and spores around 100? Someone might want to clarify this.


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Re: Very Upsetting [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #4222704 - 05/26/05 03:20 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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86 is the recommended upper limit for incubation, I believe mycelium can survive well into the upper 90s, and spores around 100? Someone might want to clarify this.




I could be wrong, it's just my understanding that you should never have the temp around your jars be more than 86. Also, inside the jars is a little bit warmer so I was just generalizing. But I'm probably wrong haha.


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Re: Very Upsetting [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #4222717 - 05/26/05 03:24 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Over 86 will kill spores




This statement is not true. Please do not spread false information.


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Re: Very Upsetting [Re: dog]
    #4222722 - 05/26/05 03:26 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah it is believed that the mycelium creates a 5 degree increase in temperature so this must be taken into account.


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Re: Very Upsetting [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #4222728 - 05/26/05 03:30 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

:sorry:


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Re: Very Upsetting [Re: dog]
    #4222755 - 05/26/05 03:41 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Over 86 will kill spores




This statement is not true. Please do not spread false information.



its not that its not true its that its not very specific. mycelium dies at 106 farenheit but spores supposedly can survive somewhat higher temps


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Re: Very Upsetting [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #4222796 - 05/26/05 03:51 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Actually, I cannot do anything that takes up room because I am hiding them from my mom... the whole thing is an undercover operation.


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Re: Very Upsetting [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #4222802 - 05/26/05 03:52 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Yeah it is believed that the mycelium creates a 5 degree increase in temperature so this must be taken into account.




Mycelium normally only raises temperature by 2 to 3 degrees in the cake.

Quote:

86 is the recommended upper limit for incubation, I believe mycelium can survive well into the upper 90s, and spores around 100? Someone might want to clarify this.




P. Cub. Mycelium's optimal growth temperature is 86 degrees. Growth slows dramatically above that and thermal death occurs at 106. Some spores may be killed at 86 degrees, but very few. Spores really start to die off at the same thermal death as p cub mycelium (106). I would suggest leaving your jars at about 80 degrees until germination occurs, then upping the temp to between 84 and 86. Just be careful not to exceed 86.


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Re: Very Upsetting [Re: Chillocybin]
    #4222805 - 05/26/05 03:53 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Then yes, you should give up until you are out on your own and not trying to do illegal activities putting your mother and her house at risk.


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Re: Very Upsetting [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4222827 - 05/26/05 04:00 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not taking huge risks... that's going a little too far. And it's not like I am living with my parents because I can't find a job or anything. I just finished high school and started a new hobby that looked fun and rewarding.


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Re: Very Upsetting [Re: Chillocybin]
    #4222842 - 05/26/05 04:03 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Then yes, you should give up until you are out on your own and not trying to do illegal activities putting your mother and her house at risk.





:thumbup: :thumbup:

This is the kind of shit that brought down Fanaticus.


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