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 gratefulredhead
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#4222120 - 05/26/05 10:54 AM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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Better to store at room temperature, refrigerate, or store in the freezer??
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thenewguy05
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i can't speak for everyone but i keep mine in a little box out of the light at room temp
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 ohmatic
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Quote:
gratefulredhead said:
Better to store at room temperature, refrigerate, or store in the freezer??
storing in a DARK shelf @ roomtemp will definitely keep them viable for about half a year.
storing them in the fridge will definitely keep them viable for a year if not longer.
freezing them may partially cause spores to "blow up" and render them unuseable.
so your best bet would either be the fridge for long term, of a normal closet for not so long term 
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Underground_Shaman
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RT. seal out the air if possible.
Spores MAY remain viable for DECADES that way.
Peace,
Shaman
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Shdwstr
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Storage method... in an baggie, in an envelope, in a drawer.
Rehydration...... one week in a syringe before use.
Propogation...... rye jars and agar.
Viability........ Perfect on both.
Age of Print..... 22 years old.
Enjoy 
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gratefulredhead
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#4223022 - 05/26/05 02:41 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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22 years! wow... quite a length of time.
i'll get them the hell out of the freezer!! 
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ohmatic
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Re: Spore print storage [Re: Shdwstr] 1
#4223036 - 05/26/05 02:44 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Shdwstr said:
Storage method... in an baggie, in an envelope, in a drawer.
Rehydration...... one week in a syringe before use.
Propogation...... rye jars and agar.
Viability........ Perfect on both.
Age of Print..... 22 years old.
Enjoy
gotta admit that that's a rare thing to happen though
like to have it perfectly viable after such a long time.
peace ohm
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Tien
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Re: Spore print storage [Re: ohmatic] 1
#4223067 - 05/26/05 02:55 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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I put my prints into a ziploc and toss em into the "mycology section" of the fridge.
Pluto
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Shdwstr
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Re: Spore print storage [Re: ohmatic] 1
#4223123 - 05/26/05 03:08 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, 22yrs is pretty old and rare.
Not too many 20yr old prints out there. 
But I can say I have had many prints stored in a drawer that were viable after 5 or more years,
and syringes a year or more old stored at room temps that were just fine. My most surpising one was a LC syringe, 2 years old of Malabar, stored at room temp... worked perfect!
I think most people underestimate the durability of spores.
Think of it... Spores from mushrooms and ferns have been found in aincient tombs that are thousands of years old... and still viable.
Enjoy
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ohmatic
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Re: Spore print storage [Re: Shdwstr] 1
#4223143 - 05/26/05 03:15 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shdwstr said:
Think of it... Spores from mushrooms and ferns have been found in aincient tombs that are thousands of years old... and still viable.
examples?
like examples that prove their viability.
peace ohm
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Re: Spore print storage [Re: ohmatic] 1
#4223151 - 05/26/05 03:17 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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vacuum sealed. the gold standard.
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Shdwstr
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Re: Spore print storage [Re: ohmatic] 1
#4223288 - 05/26/05 03:53 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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ohmatic said:
examples?
like examples that prove their viability.
peace ohm
Heheheh... I appreciate your quest for proven facts but I am not about to debate it's accuracy or validity since it is not important to the discussion at hand. If your really interested... do a seach on "The mummy's curse" etc...
I offered a personal experience on viability of spores, syringes and LC.
Weather you, or anyone else cares to believe it is up to you... it works for me
Later
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Mighty Bop
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Re: Spore print storage [Re: Shdwstr] 1
#4223323 - 05/26/05 04:05 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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The jars I inoculated with a 6+ month old syringe (kept at room temperature) are almost done, Allen strain.....
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Edited by Mighty Bop (05/26/05 04:05 PM)
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Holydiver
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Re: Spore print storage [Re: Shdwstr] 1
#4223363 - 05/26/05 04:15 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shdwstr, I think Ohm is simply asking for a reference to spores found in the tomb being "viable". You mentioned they were viable, and I too am interested as to how this conclusion was drawn?
The Mummy's Curse is about Howard Carter opening the tomb of King tut, yet I've never seen a reference to anything about mushroom spores in this event. Please elaborate.
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Leimana
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I keep my prints in the fridge in their baggies/envelopes. The will get their own opaque box in there, and I will alphabetize them, when I remember to get one. I don't think light makes a difference, but, what the heck.
I have been practicing Agar's rigid laminate print making tek. $20 for a box of 100 ID card sized laminate sheaths.
They work fine as long as your mushroom caps don't get too big.
My Food Saver sealer works fine to seal them. That is an extra Orrisa India I have lying around now.
Leimana
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Mighty Bop
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Re: Spore print storage [Re: Leimana] 1
#4223415 - 05/26/05 04:35 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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Link to agar's tek please?
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Shdwstr
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Re: Spore print storage [Re: Holydiver] 1
#4223545 - 05/26/05 05:16 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Diver said:
Shdwstr, I think Ohm is simply asking for a reference to spores found in the tomb being "viable". You mentioned they were viable, and I too am interested as to how this conclusion was drawn?
The Mummy's Curse is about Howard Carter opening the tomb of King tut, yet I've never seen a reference to anything about mushroom spores in this event. Please elaborate.
Your absolutely right. There was not direct reference to "Mushroom spores" to this example. But, a loosely related link may help to connect the dots.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/05/0510_050506_tvcurse.html
I have read articles about fern and mushroon(fungus) spores found in tombs that have been grown. Unfortunately my late wife was the one with the photographic memory, or I would provide a link.
Only thing I can tell you is the article I read on the subject was in a scientific journal. Some things of interest, I do remember... Sorry, best I can do
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Holydiver
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Re: Spore print storage [Re: Shdwstr] 1
#4223554 - 05/26/05 05:19 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok, thanks for clearing that up. I definitely agree with you saying that people underestimate the longevity of spores. Mushrooms have survived every period/climate this earth has to offer, not to mention droughts, etc. It's simply amazing how tough they are.
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Leimana
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Re: Spore print storage [Re: Mighty Bop] 1
#4226448 - 05/27/05 12:34 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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Link to agar's tek please?
Agar's Print Tek
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