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OfflineSeussA
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Re-election idea
    #4222022 - 05/26/05 12:28 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

I was thinking through elections and re-elections the other day and came up with an interesting idea. Here it goes: There are no more term limits... a person can be president, for example, as many times as they like. However, no elected official is allowed to hold an office for two terms in a row. A president would have to wait four years after the end of their term before they could run for any other elected office while a member of the house would have to wait two years after the end of their term before they could hold another elected office.

Good idea or not? Would this create more problems than it fixes?


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Re: Re-election idea [Re: Seuss]
    #4222086 - 05/26/05 12:46 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

I don't think there should be ANY career politicians. Those in political office should suffer like the rest of the private citizens so they will better understand the negative effects of their actions. I also think the fundamental problem is the amount of power vested in political offices and the centralization of authority. Take the power away and those who lust for power will be less likely to seek it in the office or in the very least will be limited in the amount of damage they can do.


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Re: Re-election idea [Re: Seuss]
    #4222745 - 05/26/05 03:38 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

In Canada we don't have any limits on how long a person can hold their position, I think. Pierre Trudeau, for example, was PM for 16 years (1968-1979, 1980-1984).


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Re: Re-election idea [Re: trendal]
    #4222888 - 05/26/05 04:16 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

What about the idea of having an all volunteer political system, sorta like some fire stations. Not only would this dramatically decrease the ego-trip/greed associated with politics, I think it would bring about more sincere candidates - ones who possess more dedication to serving one's country...And on top of that, the peoples voice would be much more genuinely represented within the decision-making process of the country.


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Re: Re-election idea [Re: PaperTiger]
    #4222921 - 05/26/05 04:24 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

I think politicians should make, AT THE MOST, the average salary of the country's citizens.

I wouldn't mind paying taxes for a "project"-style housing system for politicians and their families, either, provided they were paid minimum-wage for their work. Give them a place to live and food stamps (or some meal plan) but give them next-to-nothing for actual salary...and I think it would entirely change the political system.


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Re: Re-election idea [Re: trendal]
    #4222953 - 05/26/05 04:29 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

You think that a politican with degrees in law, philosphy or politics should make the same as the "average" idiot American? Hardly.


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Re: Re-election idea [Re: SoopaX]
    #4222959 - 05/26/05 04:30 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

Also, It's not that hard to make what these people make. Professionals with doctoral degrees should make six figure salaries.


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Re: Re-election idea [Re: SoopaX]
    #4223062 - 05/26/05 04:53 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

Many of these people are very smart, qualified individuals and deserve to make more than the average worker. What we need is some kind of voter reform so that fewer idiots can vote. Something that insures that only the productive members of society have a say in the way the country is run.


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Re: Re-election idea [Re: SoopaX]
    #4223083 - 05/26/05 04:59 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

The President himself makes $400,000 a year, doesn't he?

You don't think that's a little excessive?


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Re: Re-election idea [Re: SoopaX]
    #4223089 - 05/26/05 05:01 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

You think that a politican with degrees in law, philosphy or politics should make the same as the "average" idiot American?

Yes, I do think so. It would give him/her a strong reason to want to raise the "average" salary in his/her country...instead of worrying just about those who already have a lot of money and were hence able to contribute significantly to said politician's campaign fund.


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Re: Re-election idea [Re: trendal]
    #4223126 - 05/26/05 05:08 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

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trendal said:
Yes, I do think so. It would give him/her a strong reason to want to raise the "average" salary in his/her country...instead of worrying just about those who already have a lot of money and were hence able to contribute significantly to said politician's campaign fund.




Give them reason to raise the "average" salary? WTF? How about the workers wanting to improve their position in life and better themselves so the can EARN more money. The government does not exist to make people's lives better. The government exists to protect people's rights so they can make their lives better.


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Re: Re-election idea [Re: snoopaloop53]
    #4223139 - 05/26/05 05:14 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

The government exists to protect people's rights so they can make their lives better.

Yes, and I don't think they're doing a very good job of it.


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Re: Re-election idea [Re: trendal]
    #4223191 - 05/26/05 05:28 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

No, they are not but making them volunteers or cutting their pay is definately not the answer.


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Re: Re-election idea [Re: snoopaloop53]
    #4223250 - 05/26/05 05:43 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

these guys make enough money with kickbacks and professional favors that we don't need to pay them shite. If there was no salery for public office the same people would be in it, they don't do it for the salery they do it for the kickbacks an position.

I would rather build a few more jails than pay these fuckers.


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Re: Re-election idea [Re: DirtMcgirt]
    #4223284 - 05/26/05 05:52 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

So now you want to encourage them to go after kickbacks and paychecks from other sources...there's a great idea if i ever saw one  :rolleyes:


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Re: Re-election idea [Re: trendal]
    #4223908 - 05/26/05 08:52 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

Quote:

trendal said:
The government exists to protect people's rights so they can make their lives better.

Yes, and I don't think they're doing a very good job of it.




That's a pretty harsh stance to take with the Canadian government. They try very hard and except for the winters life is pretty good compared to the rest of the world as a whole.


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Re: Re-election idea [Re: trendal]
    #4223946 - 05/26/05 09:03 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

400K a year to run a country? Then I'm sure that you think basketball players making 20x that are MASSIVELY overpaid?


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Re: Re-election idea [Re: trendal]
    #4224292 - 05/26/05 10:44 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

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trendal said:
I wouldn't mind paying taxes for a "project"-style housing system for politicians and their families, either, provided they were paid minimum-wage for their work. Give them a place to live and food stamps (or some meal plan)




Wouldn't it be funny if we did this and the politicians started smoking crack, breeding excessively, and shooting each other?


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Re: Re-election idea [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #4224541 - 05/27/05 12:14 AM (12 years, 30 days ago)

And the sad part is, I'd wager they'd still be less corrupt than they are now.


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Re: Re-election idea [Re: SoopaX]
    #4226042 - 05/27/05 12:40 PM (12 years, 29 days ago)

400K a year to run a country? Then I'm sure that you think basketball players making 20x that are MASSIVELY overpaid?

Yes, I do :wink:


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