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    #4221946 - 05/26/05 12:04 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

so hears the deal. I'm not into tripping hard, i dont give a damn about seeing things, and i dont care to seek some mushroom spirit, I just like to tkae about a gram or so and chill.. i like the empathy that mushrooms give you, along with the euphoria. Since its the season again, I want to take some fungi with my girlfriend (who has never done them). Eating the things is disgusting and usually gives me a stomach ache so id like to make some juice. I did it about a week ago with 60+ shrooms so i know how, but my question is this.. can i take about 20 grams wet of shrooms, boil them in a few cups of water, and expect a couple of ~1 gram (dried) trips? does it loose alot of potency in the process? Whats the deal with this?


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Re: shroom juice! [Re: hempknight]
    #4221973 - 05/26/05 12:14 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Mushroom Tea Recipe Do not boil the mushrooms!

Psilocin is not water soluble so if you only drink the tea you will lose most of the psilocin. There is not much psilocin in Psilocybe Cubensis so it's not that bad if you have Cubes. You have to eat everything if you don't want to lose anything though.


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Re: shroom juice! [Re: Annom]
    #4247244 - 06/02/05 10:04 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

well, i dont relaly mind if i lose some.. and people tripped their asses off from that tea so its not that harmful.. but what the amount i will lose? has anyone tryed this before or am i going to be a pioneer?


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Re: shroom juice! [Re: hempknight]
    #4247286 - 06/02/05 10:32 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

The ratio of psilocybin and psilocin varies per mushroom, but an estimate based on the research I've read for Psilocybe Cubensis is 5-15% psilocin and 85-95% psilocybin. You would lose between 5-15% of the total psilocybin and psilocin content. This is very different for other mushroom species.

Making tea is a very common way to take mushrooms and has been done many times before.


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Re: shroom juice! [Re: hempknight]
    #4247288 - 06/02/05 10:32 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

if you eat less only 1gram it shouldn't bother your stomach to much. Just put honey on it or put them in pills.


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Re: shroom juice! [Re: Toddo]
    #4247490 - 06/02/05 12:14 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

you can mix them with fresh fruits in a mixer too
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Re: shroom juice! [Re: hempknight]
    #4248506 - 06/02/05 04:34 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm not into tripping hard, i dont give a damn about seeing things, and i dont care to seek some mushroom spirit. i like the empathy that mushrooms give you, along with the euphoria.




how about ecstasy instead?


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Re: shroom juice! [Re: Annom]
    #4249730 - 06/02/05 09:25 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Psilocin is not water soluble




I'm becoming allergic for the word "water soluble" :wink:

Psilocin IS watersoluble and most definately in mushroom tea ratios but it is contained within the cells of the mushrooms (psilocybin in the extracellular fluid or the "blood/sap" of the mushroom) and thus is slower to extract.

I have used mushroom powder in the same way as tea leaves (pour hot water on, let stand for 10 min and filter and this gave some potency loss (no prob for an incidental small-quantity user) but gave a clean experience with a good taste to the tea.


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Re: shroom juice! [Re: Annom]
    #4250600 - 06/03/05 12:51 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Mushroom Tea Recipe Do not boil the mushrooms!




Unfortunately this (and most other tea recipe's) is only a method if ingesting DRY shrooms in their entirety. You cant exactly grind up wet mushrooms.

As for the psilocin loss, chances are a large portion of that has already been lost in the handling / drying process. And I'm referring here from experience with cope cyans. I have found very little if any potency loss by roughly chopping the fresh mushrooms and SIMMERING (not boiling) for at least half an hour (not longer than 1 hour).


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Re: shroom juice! [Re: Asante]
    #4251118 - 06/03/05 03:33 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I read that in a Shroomery article: "Psilocybin is soluble in about 20 parts water, while psilocin is not particularly soluble in water." - http://www.shroomery.org/shrooms/psilocybin.htm


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