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InvisibleMeltingPenguin
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EXPEREMENTation
    #422096 - 10/11/01 05:04 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

OK, here's my experement. I know it won't work, but why?Please tell me why this won't work.

Shreded straw, mixed with compost and humus,and verm. Put directly into a pressure cooker, no jars, just dumped in. Little extra water added, for steam. little h2o2 also to fight any contaims

Cooked for about 15 minutes at 15 psi. GOnna let it cool, and cook for another 15. "don't want to burn the shit"
Then once its all cool, i'm gonna open it quick, and dump some colonized honey water in, close it back up, and leave it for about two weeks. after a few days i'm gonna remove the pressure regulator for air exchange.

What do yall think?

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Re: EXPEREMENTation [Re: MeltingPenguin]
    #422147 - 10/11/01 06:07 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

um.. this is not advanced.. please post apropriately next time

anyway, here is what i see wrong with it:
with pc, no h2o2 necessary.
pc for 15 min is not long enough.
opening the pc is asking for contam, however if you just innoculate through the release stem and ensured all air drawn in during cooling was sufficiently filtered of contams, this all could work... but for problems with lack of air exchange.. still, its *possable.. although not really worth it.. why not just use jars and a method of your choice?
search for an old post by Moe Howard.
He innoculated a pc, got a huge cake.. man.. i miss that crazy foo.. could make me laugh my ass off any day..
of course he also got his ass all blown up (paraphrase) from time to time..


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Re: EXPEREMENTation [Re: DinoMyc]
    #422282 - 10/11/01 08:44 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Just wanted to post that this was the correct place for the post. If you read the intro:

For experienced mycologists, this forum is dedicated to the discussion of experimental procedures and advanced cultivation techniques.

You can see that it is not only for experienced mycologists but also for the discussion of experimental procedures.



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Re: EXPEREMENTation [Re: phrozendata]
    #422378 - 10/11/01 09:50 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

.. i really do not want to argue about it.. i thought that it did not belong here, which is why i said that it did not appear to belong..
and the pc for 15 min comment souds like this was not a well thought out post or serious question..
experimentation is generally considered such when the procedure involved some new variable previously not considered.
regardless, i did answer to the best of my abilities at the time..
anyway, everyone, when you really think about it, is really an amatuer..

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Re: EXPEREMENTation [Re: MeltingPenguin]
    #422459 - 10/11/01 10:48 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

straw shouldnt be sterilized but pasteurized. poo shouldnt be sterilized either (if thats what your compost is made of).

ive not used my pressure cooker to make stews in, etc.- only for canning, so im not quite sure if the mixture would work unless in a stew-type mixture (lotsa water base so it doesnt stick to the pot). you never just throw meat in there, you know? its always food in a stewy mixture... youd have to have poo-stew i think. yech. plus, the extra water for steam idea wont work... you couldnt seperate the mix from the water. your excess water would be prolly too much for colonization...

h2o2 breaks down into water and air when exposed to light and heat- the amt of heat would definitely break it down before it could do you any good

cookings cooking at 15 psi, each time itll be at 250 degrees. you cant get around that to "not burn the shit", you have to have enough water in there or it wont work anyways. so use it for the amt of time you think necessary.

why would you try and ruin a pressure cooker by leaving all that nastiness in there- turning into yuckiness...

opening up the pressure regulator would just open up for contams... which would *love* your sterilized poo and straw...

so i vote no.







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Re: EXPEREMENTation [Re: oscill8]
    #422814 - 10/12/01 04:08 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

the steam from the pressure cooker ended up setting off the fire alarm in my dorm.
ANd since it was like cooking poo, all these flies came buzzing around.
I tourched the little fuckers with the lysol and a match method.

I basially sparyed down my whole room with lysol, and washed my hands with rubbing alc, before i quicky opened the cooker, tossed in the honey water, then closed it back up.

who know if it will work, but if it does, i'll let yall know

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Re: EXPEREMENTation [Re: MeltingPenguin]
    #422952 - 10/12/01 09:23 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Did you even want our opinion?... everyone said no.. for good reason..
I doubt you even did what you said.. but I really cannot be sure..
anyway..

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Re: EXPEREMENTation [Re: MeltingPenguin]
    #423046 - 10/12/01 11:57 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

won't this make the pressure cooker REALLY disgusting?... possibly ruin it?

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Re: EXPEREMENTation [Re: MeltingPenguin]
    #424705 - 10/14/01 01:44 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

the originator of the use of H2O2 recommends use as you describe. your tek will likely work. i recomend that you find another pot that fits inside your pc, since this is the ONLY way you will get the moisture level correct, and will bypass probs with burning etc. at that point, you'ld just as well move the inner pot to a rubbermaid to incubate and make your pc available for use.

in any good experiment, there is a control. it is a test that is run alongside the one or ones used to test the hypothesis. in the control, everything remains unchanged, so that you can see if what you are testing is doing anything different. otherwise, you don't have an experiment, you only have an observation, and it is a lot less efficient. please figure out what your control is.


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