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Offlinepopinaboner
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Ok this will be a good question.
    #422087 - 10/11/01 11:47 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Ok, I am trying to grow for my third time. I have been reading about the rye and I am interested in doing this. I only have one problem. I like the BRF tek but I have just read that you are supposed to boil the brown rice first before you grind it. I never boiled my brown rice, I ground it hard and just mixed some brown rice flour with it and my fruiting was ok.
I am willing to try the rye but I heard you are supposed to mix rye with some vermiculite so you don't get alot of water at the bottom of the jar. I was reading the micronmagic tek he says nothing about mixing vermiculite in his tek. He uses the quart jars and I like the 1/2 quart. I bought his filters, can I use them for my 1/2 quart jars with rye.
Here are some questions referring to what I am trying discuss in the paragraph above.
1) Should the brown rice be boiled and then ground or grind it dry?
2) IF I try the rye formula or maybe even finch seed what is the best mix in cups measurements or parts please?
3) I am ordering from PF getting the PF syringe and Meza syringe. He states that his shrooms grow best in the BRF tek that is why I am debating on doing the rye tek. I feel his shrooms might not do well with the rye tek.
I want to use 1/2 quart jars instead of quart because I feel my PC isn't big enough to handle 6 quart jars. It is a presto pressure cooker. Any advice will help thanks.



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Re: Ok this will be a good question. [Re: popinaboner]
    #422109 - 10/12/01 12:28 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

For my fist attempt growing I decided to use rye. I followed "Grain tek for dummies" or something like that on the Micron Magic website under their tek section. It involves preboiling and it turned out great for me ,easy to do and I have not had any of the contamination problems I hear about with some rye teks. Also when you preboil you dont have to worry about measurements of water to rye which is nice. I also have a presto pc that I got at walmart. If you have the 8qt model than you can fit 3 quart jars although its a tight fit. Good luck with your project!

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Invisibleoscill8
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Re: Ok this will be a good question. [Re: popinaboner]
    #422429 - 10/12/01 05:34 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

hi. you did right, you dont boil brown rice when using pf tek cakes according to the recipe. when making whole brown rice as a substrate, you should boil, following several other recipes posted here and published.

you dont need to mix verm with rye. verm can absorb excess water in substrates, but most people use gypsum for this purpose, not verm.

are you using brown rice or rye? im not sure how to answer your questions cos it sounds like youre using both... so #1 i already answered...

2.) rye, pretty much even water to grain ratios. you can use 100 rye to 105 water for 1/2 quarts... down to 100 to 100 (even stevens)- these recipes and their variations can be found in stamets' books and elsewhere. psilocyber has a millet tek (birdseed) that uses 130 water to 250 seed (these measurements are all in grams)...

3.) pf does grow pf tek (from what i can tell on his site). a strain grown mainly on one substrate for a long period of time will get used to the substrate and favor it (according to prevailing beliefs, check out sensence in gourmet mushroom guides for more info, or search here)


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