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OfflineShroomyTunes
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Two DMT questions :)
    #4218671 - 05/25/05 04:04 PM (13 years, 29 days ago)

1. Is the ayahuasca trip the same as a subbreakthrough smoked DMT trip but much longer?

2. If you smoke DMT after taking an MAOI, is it the same trip but much longer? How long does it last?

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Re: Two DMT questions :) [Re: ShroomyTunes]
    #4219504 - 05/25/05 07:40 PM (13 years, 29 days ago)

1 - sort of, lol

2 - not sure

Check ayahuasca.com


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Re: Two DMT questions :) [Re: myndreach]
    #4220558 - 05/26/05 12:19 AM (13 years, 29 days ago)

1. ayhauasca isnt smoked DMT. ayhausca has a mind of its own, respect it and it will show you things smoked DMT never could. smoked DMT is for those who are not ready for what ayahuasca has to teach them, they are referred to as 'children'. Dont attempt ayahuasca unless your willing to commit yourself spiritually and mentally to it, and be open to personal growth and introverted reflection on an unimaginable level.

2. apparently it makes the DMT trip last a little longer, and a little more intense, though if you've ever smoked rue extract, its not exactly pleasant or efficient as the chemical turns into a sticky puffy ash. i tried it out of a wood pipe, though i would suggest using a bong.


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Re: Two DMT questions :) [Re: yousuck]
    #4222170 - 05/26/05 01:06 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

you should take the rue orally 45min-1hr prior to smoking..... :thumbup:


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Re: Two DMT questions :) [Re: mikl]
    #4222759 - 05/26/05 03:42 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

thats nutty ... how long will the trip last?


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Re: Two DMT questions :) [Re: Jdawg2013]
    #4222798 - 05/26/05 03:52 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

I've read a few reports where people ingested rue, and smoked DMT about an hour later and had a much longer and intense experience. Ayahuasca is a whole lot different, except in the aspect of eternity/infinity, like most psychedelics. But no doubt, a smoked DMT experience can be just as profound as any Ayahuasca experience. I definitely wouldn't refer to DMT smokers as merely children, look at Chinacat82. That comment made no sense to me.


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Re: Two DMT questions :) [Re: LiveByFreedom]
    #4223018 - 05/26/05 04:40 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

I always figured smoked DMT is way more intense than Ayahuasca. I don't see why you consider smoked to be for people not ready for ayahuasca.


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Re: Two DMT questions :) [Re: ShroomyTunes]
    #4223056 - 05/26/05 04:51 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

By far, the most intense experience of my life was on mushrooms + DMT, which is a GREAT combo. I think yousuck is right in the aspect, that you have to be spiritually committed to enjoy ayahuasca to the fullest. I also believe that one has to be prepared for what smokeable DMT has to show them, in order to benefit fully from it.


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Re: Two DMT questions :) [Re: LiveByFreedom]
    #4223359 - 05/26/05 06:14 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

smoked DMT is more intense as it hits you faster and harder, but if you have trained your mind well enough in the art of psychedelic meditation, the ayahausca can surpass smoked DMT immeasureably.

i refer to DMT smokers as children only because most arent committed to DMT enough to take any more than a 3 minute trip on it. Sure, smoked DMT shows you things, profound things, but most smokers are too intranced with the short experience to remember anything, and because of the short duration little can be achieved in the area of personal growth and understanding.

i think the easy access by means of inhalation is counterproductive in that it stunts DMT enthuastiasts by keeping them from ever having to search out the true experience. In other words, its a DMT quick fix.

just look at how many people smoke weed instead of ingesting a heroic dose of cannabutter. can u get a heroic dose smoked? no, though ive gotten close doing 3 gravity hits after a month of not smoking.

how many people would eat mushrooms if all they had pure smokable psilo (im not sure if psilo is smokable)?

smoking anything isnt the answer to a true psychdelic experience, hence, its purely for the children.


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Re: Two DMT questions :) [Re: yousuck]
    #4223401 - 05/26/05 06:29 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

I know many people who can indeed smoke heroic doses of DMT (aswell as myself), 60mg and upwards, and there are many trip reports on the internet that show that. Maybe some 'children' that try DMT once, will not commit to the experience, but MANY people do. It's the same with Ayahuasca, most people won't commit to the experience, but some do.

"but most smokers are too intranced with the short experience to remember anything, and because of the short duration little can be achieved in the area of personal growth and understanding."

Maybe not much can be acheived with one try, but you have to keep going back. If you aren't prepared (just as with ayahuasca), it will not get you anywhere. I don't know how many people you've seen smoke DMT, but i've seen hundreds within the past 3 years, and many of them continue to use DMT and see it as a tool on a grand scale.


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