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OfflineKalix
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O.K. Never Mind.. Got lotsa pins now :)
    #4218479 - 05/25/05 03:02 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I cased like 9 days ago, have had a bit of downward humidity fluctuation, but for the past 5 days it's been right
@ 90 or above.. But still no pins! I know you guys are probably going to tell me to have patience, but it's so hard... Temp is consistently 74. Any suggestions?


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Re: No pins :( [Re: Kalix]
    #4218577 - 05/25/05 03:32 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Kalix said:
I cased like 9 days ago, have had a bit of downward humidity fluctuation, but for the past 5 days it's been right
@ 90 or above.. But still no pins! I know you guys are probably going to tell me to have patience, but it's so hard... Temp is consistently 74. Any suggestions?




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Re: No pins :( [Re: backupwards]
    #4218606 - 05/25/05 03:41 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Substrate? When I want pins to come, I pull them out into my CLEAN bedroom, and let them sit open air for 6-12 hours, then put back in the chamber for 12-18 hours) and repeat a few times. The fresh air and lots of light (leaving the lights on, my room is well lit) induces pinning very quickly, evenly and solidly. Just keep the casing layer moist while theyre sitting out and dont leave them out as long if the casing layer dries very quickly.


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Re: No pins :( [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4218614 - 05/25/05 03:45 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Sub is cased BRF.. I was actually thinking of that, but I'm worried the room is too dirty. They're in a Rubbermaid (red) tub, with a square cut out of the lid, and saran wrap taped on there. I open and fan it once a day, but only after using Oust air sanitizer on the room. I was thinking of maybe covering my cased bread tray w/saran wrap, and putting it in the fridge for 6-8 hours. Or am I pushing my luck by being impatient? BTW I have a sterile mini-fridge just for spores and agar petri dishes...


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Re: No pins :( [Re: Kalix]
    #4218626 - 05/25/05 03:51 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

The fridge wont do much, it stops vegetative growth well, but cubies are tropical, and a 10 degree temp drop is plenty for that trigger. 12 hours of good light per day is the second trigger, and if you have that then all you need to worry about is fresh air exchanges. Stamets suggests I believe 3-4 per HOUR, along with the 10 degree temp drop and 12 hours heavy blue (flouros are great) light. That much isnt NEEDED but you can see how important fresh air is over the other two pinning triggers.

A dirty room is something to be worried about though...my room has a HEPA running all the time in it, I do open the window when I pull out the casings though to get fresh air blowing in there. I believe with all the fresh air its tough for contaminates to germinate on my casings...I do use poo as well though which is far more contam resistant then anything else IME. Though I hear BRF is pretty contam resistant.

Its really up to you on how much you want to push it. You can increase fresh air exchanges without exposing the casing to open air, or just leave it as is..it will pin fanning 1-3 times a day..just takes longer and you'll need to be patient. I know you didnt want to hear that though :smile:


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: No pins :( [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4218640 - 05/25/05 03:55 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

i keep bruising mine from moving them so try not to do that >_<

ill let you know if what im trying works. Im dunking them and fridging them for a while. They need to be fluffier anyways


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Re: No pins :( [Re: divinityinfinity]
    #4218650 - 05/25/05 03:58 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I can deal with patience, just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing something majorly wrong.. It seems like I should be fanning more, but that's almost impossible. I guess what I'll do is load up on humidity and put an aquarium bubbler in there.
Also, the window to the room is always open, I have sprayed everything in there w/lysol, I may just be neurotic about how dirty the room is..


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Re: No pins :( [Re: Kalix]
    #4225596 - 05/27/05 08:12 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I made casings and it took a good 2.5-3 weeks of pin initiation before they started to pin and fruit.

this was this month. cased in the first week of May and the casings have just now started to make the pins and should be ready for harvest in about 10-12 days.

patience


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Re: No pins :( [Re: Joops]
    #4226438 - 05/27/05 02:32 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

damn must be frustrating


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Re: No pins :( [Re: BigBubba808]
    #4226449 - 05/27/05 02:34 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

whats frustrating is my casings finally start to pin and a patch of green shows up.


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Re: No pins :( [Re: Kalix]
    #4226857 - 05/27/05 03:54 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Good luck with your casing, try the fanning and hopefully you will see some pins soon :thumbup:


Edited by Psilovibe (04/18/06 02:43 AM)


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Re: No pins :( [Re: Kalix]
    #4229309 - 05/28/05 06:02 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

dude, you should really fan more often than once a day, and mist the casing some. check out Paul Stamets' phases of the mushrooms. phase 4 particularly.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4221034/an/0/page/2


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Re: No pins :( [Re: Optx]
    #4229385 - 05/28/05 09:01 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Need lots of air exchange

16 hour dunk is a bit excessive IMO.

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Re: No pins :( [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4230072 - 05/28/05 03:05 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

i usually dunk for 24-36 hours with good results


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Re: No pins :( [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4231215 - 05/28/05 09:40 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: No pins :( [Re: Kalix]
    #4232646 - 05/29/05 08:58 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

got pins yet kalix?


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Re: No pins :( [Re: spiffo]
    #4232766 - 05/29/05 10:26 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Waiting is agony.


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Re: No pins :( [Re: CaRnAgECaNdY]
    #4235310 - 05/30/05 03:03 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

think he finally got some?
no posts celebtrating or any replies...maybe,maybe not


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Re: No pins :( [Re: spiffo]
    #4235539 - 05/30/05 04:28 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Not yet.. I got mycelium spikes though.. My fruiting chamber is not 100% air tight.. If I hooked up my coolmist, do you folks think that would force enough air out to count as fanning? My issue is the 'I'm doing it in my closest friends closet, so my drug counselor doesn't surprise me' tek..


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Re: No pins :( [Re: Kalix]
    #4236090 - 05/30/05 11:17 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

kalix.. all I have to say is.... I just suffered the same nightmare as you. I spawned to 5LBS of HM Compost about 3 1/2 weeks ago, spawn run was about 7 days but it didn't colonize the bottom completely. So I broke it up and cased it. 2 1/2 weeks later, I see a lil' shroom!! Just give it time. They grow themselves.

Sam


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