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pantsboy
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Re: The Female Body is a work of Art... [Re: tomk]
#4224431 - 05/26/05 09:44 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Here is some high quality wank material:
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TheDudeAbides
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Re: The Female Body is a work of Art... [Re: pantsboy]
#4224440 - 05/26/05 09:47 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Shatty pics, but I still fucking love your signature Tom. Dark Tower Owns you...
Pics coming in one second.
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DrunkenCowgirl
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Re: The Female Body is a work of Art... [Re: TheDudeAbides]
#4224606 - 05/26/05 10:29 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm not going to bother going back to find who replied to me. Its not really all that important. I don't need to change my body type to be beautiful frankly I don't want to be "thin and toned". I like being a curvy soft woman. I guess I really wasn't articulating my point well enough. I just hope you all appreciate the beautiful, yet not media perfect, women you have around you. Night All Enjoy
and p.s. Some porn can be art. I'm not opposed to porn at all, in fact I enjoy porn very much. I just think that "the female body is a work of art" could have better showcased the beautiful everyday women. A pregnant woman, an older woman, the girls next door of the world... rather then breast augmentated silicone beauty queens.
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pantsboy
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Re: The Female Body is a work of Art... [Re: DrunkenCowgirl]
#4224615 - 05/26/05 10:31 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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^^^^^^ generic lebian response towards the human body
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tomk
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Re: The Female Body is a work of Art... [Re: pantsboy]
#4224678 - 05/26/05 10:46 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Let me help you guys out.
Capitalist pigs cannot make as big of a shit ton of money if women have good body images. So, if they can make BOTH men and women feel unattractive by pushing ideals that are unobtainable, they can make a shit ton of money by playing to the insecurities they develop. The women feel they have to live up to the ads to be desireable. The men feel they have to attract a woman like the ads to be happy. The ad agencies create a culture where desirability is the most emphasized aspect of femininity and sucess is the most emphasized aspect of masculinity, and a high amount of value is placed on conformity to gender roles, and the companies the ad agencies work for can make a shit ton of money playing to both genders.
It's simple, folks. You're being had by phds is psychology who want to create insecurity in you that will lead you to buy products to address the manufactured insecurity.
You stupid men are just mimicing what your culture tells you when you think jennifer love hewitt is the most attractive woman. In thinking this, you are led to believe you must do what the ad agencies want you to think in order to attract women like her. Their sole concern is economic manipulation, your happiness does not enter into their equations.
You stupid women are buying crap when you listen to a culture that tells you you need to look like jennifer love hewitt to be attractive. The insecurites created manipulate your economic behavior to maximize corporate profits.
It's not true. It's just your conditioning. Let go of it. You will no longer be insecure. You will not have to waste your money on things corporate hired advertising scum decieve you into thinking subconsciously will address your insecurities.
It's not a problem to look at porn. Porn is great.
It is a problem to look at shitty porn that is an artifact of attempts by corporations to create insecurities.
It's not porn that is bad. It's this one type of maximish porn.
You shroomerites should be more enlightened then to prefer this porn.
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Edited by tomk (05/26/05 11:01 PM)
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tomk
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Re: The Female Body is a work of Art... [Re: tomk]
#4224715 - 05/26/05 10:54 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Let me help you out pantsboy.
Your response to what Cowgirl is saying is part of the mime that the ad agencies create. It falls under the "high amount of value is placed on conformity to gender roles" catagory. When someone points out you are mindlessly allowing your tastes to be created by corporations, the mime you have in your head (without even knowing it) activates the defensive component that highly values gender roles, and this combines with the part where the ad agency created ideal woman is ingrained into your worldview, and you immediately dismiss what she says without listening to her.
You are being had. You need to think for yourself. The part of your brain that instinctively says "I am thinking for myself." is solely a result of your conditioning. You are not thinking for yourself. You are letting your conditioned primate brain think for you. Do some exercises and learn to make the reasoning part of your brain bigger and able to control this primate brain.
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tomk
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Re: The Female Body is a work of Art... [Re: tomk]
#4224736 - 05/26/05 10:58 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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In fact, I looked at her ratings.
Nearly everyone who commented on her did so only because of a sexual response to her pictures of herself. Only a couple people commented on the content of her ideas. It's pretty hard to believe guys who say pornography doesn't lead to objectifying women when she has evidence right in her ratings of this.
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DrunkenCowgirl
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Re: The Female Body is a work of Art... [Re: pantsboy]
#4224737 - 05/26/05 10:59 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pants, I'm a lesbian am I? I don't believe this... I have something say about the way you guys are oogling women and that makes me a lesbian? Thank you TomK, you consistently find a way of saying what I'm stumbling through trying to say... You put that so eloquently.
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Re: The Female Body is a work of Art... [Re: DrunkenCowgirl]
#4224780 - 05/26/05 11:08 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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I am glad to be able to help. I feel protective of women who do not fit the mold because I see how much the behavior of idiot men hurts them from my vantage point as a gay guy. Because culture sexualizes gay men to such a large extent (our entire public image is solely based on our sexuality), I understand what it's like to be marginalized by societies tendency toward sexualization.
I am only eloquent when I am drunk. I am quite drunk right now.
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DrunkenCowgirl
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Re: The Female Body is a work of Art... [Re: tomk]
#4224815 - 05/26/05 11:16 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Damn I wish I was that well spoken when drunk. I was drunk last night and I don't think I could get out a complete sentence without giggling like a mad woman.
Anyhow... things like this don't Hurt me persay. I only wish I could speak my mind about such issues without being labeled "a fat girl, a lesbian" or whatever. Oh well... there will always be people out there that can't see true beauty.
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Re: The Female Body is a work of Art... *DELETED* *DELETED* *DELETED* [Re: DrunkenCowgirl]
#4224835 - 05/26/05 11:22 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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vampirism
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Re: The Female Body is a work of Art... [Re: tomk]
#4224848 - 05/26/05 11:25 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, they are being objectified. Even outside of a search for perfection, people are constantly treated that way. Have you ever gone out just to get laid? That is objectifying the other person.
I haven't done that as I am too sensitive towards individuality, but I objectify the hell out of people by how I watch porn. Is it harmful? It definately doesn't make me objectify women. If I met a favorite porn star or something, I'd be rather bored. I'd treat them as any other person.
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Re: The Female Body is a work of Art... [Re: felix]
#4224853 - 05/26/05 11:25 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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You're wrong if you think liking something makes it art.
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Mitchnast
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Re: The Female Body is a work of Art... [Re: DrunkenCowgirl]
#4224857 - 05/26/05 11:26 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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pantsboy
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Re: The Female Body is a work of Art... [Re: felix]
#4224862 - 05/26/05 11:27 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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I didn't read your posts, I scrolled to the top of the page to look at porn, so whatever point you're trying to make is probably right. And I have nothing against lesbians, I nothing but respect for gay culture. I mean if there weren't gays, who would cut my hair or decorate my house?
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DrunkenCowgirl
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Re: The Female Body is a work of Art... [Re: pantsboy]
#4224890 - 05/26/05 11:34 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think I'm done with this thread. I may be back but my point is not being heard. Thank you Tomk
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Re: The Female Body is a work of Art... [Re: vampirism]
#4224899 - 05/26/05 11:36 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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how would liking something make it art?
porn can be art lol. i'm pretty sure some porn chicks refer to themselves as an actress...which is definitely a form of art.
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tomk
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Re: The Female Body is a work of Art... [Re: DrunkenCowgirl]
#4224941 - 05/26/05 11:56 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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You're welcome. Have a goodnight.
Me, it's gonna be bonghits and some jon stewart, then some arty bondage porn. 
My favorite dialogue from a porn art clip:
Girl is standing up bound to a metal grid. Earlier in the scene, she had to read existential philosophy about the existential attitude toward absurdity and fear of the unknown, and how letting go of fear will set you free. She is beign caned, hard, crying her ass off. This girl is a bit fat, not much, but obviously very intellegent and willing (the scene was most likely her idea). The entire shot was done in one take, and broadcast live over the internet. "On the edge of the precipice girl. This is either where you can jump off, or stare and master it." *WHACK* Screaming "Please, please, please, ohh God no" "Ohh thats beuatiful." "ohh" "Do you want me to smack you harder, is that what you said?" "No please, I'm trying so hard to please you." "Well why don't you try pleasing yourself by mastering it?" "OK." "This one's for you. This one (cane) is a lot harder then the other one, you notice that?" "yes" *whack* "OHH MY GOD ITS SO BAD." "OK, dear, from now on we're going to try something. From now on, I don't want you to think about this, I just want you to be in the moment, just accept it. Don't even worry about how much it hurts. I want you to breathe nice and smoothly for it, try to settle down. My theory is you are thinking to much about it. I want you to try and master it." (i am going to sample this in a music piece) "I'm not thinking." "You're anticipating, you go no more, no more, that means your mind is already thinking about the next one, your mind is swirling and whirling like your reading an existential novel. Forget about all that, just relax, just relax, you don't care whats coming, you don't even care. OK?" "OK" "relax your shoulders, just relax, just let it come, move up your body, swirl around in your brain, and let it go back out again. Don't even think about it." *whack" "Ahh" starts crying. "stop tighting up, I just want you to relax." and so on. Afterwards, the girl is obviosly tripping. (yes, I'm gay. I like BDSM better then sex, though, and since I relate to the female anyhow, watching straight BDSM is easy because I mentally put myself in the females place.)
All I'm saying is I'm not against porn. Porn can be great. I'm against porn in the fashion of the latest MTV special, because it's not real.
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Re: The Female Body is a work of Art... [Re: tomk]
#4224972 - 05/27/05 12:07 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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how about this???
she is my desktop right now 
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KingOftheThing
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Re: The Female Body is a work of Art... [Re: Psilygirl]
#4224974 - 05/27/05 12:08 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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hows about some of your pics... i think we could findsome artwork in those
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