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Offlinekira
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Question about Allen strain
    #4217560 - 05/25/05 08:17 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I recived two prints labeled allen strain some time ago. one print I made pf cakes with and the other i used on corn grain and cased. I have some pics but i have problems with my usb port so i havent been able to upload them yet (working on that).
The results has been extremly poorly from both attemps. The mushrooms are the smallest cubensis i have ever seen and extremly thin. They also had a more dark appearance than other strains I have grown. 1st flush on casing yieldet 4.5 grams dried on a total of 67 mushrooms (a same sized casing with b+ strain using the same procedures) yieldet 32 grams dried on first flush). The same small mushroom came on pf cakes but i do not remember how large (or small) the yield was..

Is there something wrong here? I want to hear if others who has grown the same strain have had same problem? I was wondering if there was something wrong with the prints I have gotten (mutated or something, i dont know)


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Re: Question about Allen strain [Re: kira]
    #4217561 - 05/25/05 08:19 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

co2 levals


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Re: Question about Allen strain [Re: liveby]
    #4217570 - 05/25/05 08:27 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

well if its co2 levels, then why is this the only strain I have experienced anything close to this on, I follow the same procedures every time and the casing stands in a terratorium together with two other casing with b+ wich are doing great.

and it also camed when i used pf cakes, i understand why co2 levels are a logical answer but I dont understand how that would only be a problem on these two prints only


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Re: Question about Allen strain [Re: kira]
    #4217665 - 05/25/05 09:48 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I am having somewhat of the same problem with my Malabar's I am growing now. I grew EQ's and GC's before this and had fast growth, big flushes and large fruits. These Malabar's are almost completely the opposite. I am thinking some strains either just perform better OR the genetics of the particular shroom you have are not very good, if that's possible. If all the conditions have been kept consistent during incubation and fruiting for every strain grown, what could cause this discrepancy?


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Re: Question about Allen strain [Re: kira]
    #4217670 - 05/25/05 09:52 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

give us some more info on your setup, that may help.


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Re: Question about Allen strain [Re: backupwards]
    #4217678 - 05/25/05 09:59 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Well, for me, it was BRF/Verm in half pinters, colonized in about 7 days at around 86 degrees, left them for about 3-4 more days, then dunked for 12 hours, rolled and double-end cased. Pins showed around 7 days in the PMP which is kept at 75 degrees and 96%+ RH. They get about an 1 hour and 15 minutes (when I check/pick/fan) of light a day. Basically I am doing everything right so it must be something else, I think.


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Re: Question about Allen strain [Re: kira]
    #4217717 - 05/25/05 10:24 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I tried out Allens when they first came out and they did pretty good for me....they werent huge fruits but i was just doing real basic casings back then


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Re: Question about Allen strain [Re: PaulAtreides]
    #4217721 - 05/25/05 10:28 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I'm getting a lot of really puny Puerto Ricans. Only strain so far that I have had this problem with and the growing conditions are the same.


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Re: Question about Allen strain [Re: killme]
    #4217731 - 05/25/05 10:33 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I did PR`s on straw and got huge nice fruits...
Most of my good grows came from Ralphster so maybe that makes a differance


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Re: Question about Allen strain [Re: PaulAtreides]
    #4217745 - 05/25/05 10:38 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

That's funny because I think my EQ's came from Ralphster as well. Good thing I made some prints of that one. Hopefully they turn out the same way again!


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Re: Question about Allen strain [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #4217896 - 05/25/05 11:39 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Most strains do crappy on the PF Tek. Not all though, so you can have some success with one, try another and not do so well. All strains arent created equal, despite what you may have heard.


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Re: Question about Allen strain [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4218196 - 05/25/05 01:05 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I see, well I am glad I am going grain a la casing from now on!


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Re: Question about Allen strain [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #4218624 - 05/25/05 03:50 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

it's true not all strains are the same. On the same note genetics of spores plays a large role on how mushrooms grow. That being said you could take another print of the same strain from a different sorce (or the same source for that matter) and the shrooms could colonize and fruit much differently. I've had a hard time colonizing z strain. all the conditions and the substrate are the same. No contamination. It's the myc growth. Yet people say z strain is great.
Secondly.... i find that small cubensis mushrooms although harder to harvest have a greater effect for the same weight. JMO!


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Re: Question about Allen strain [Re: kira]
    #4218634 - 05/25/05 03:53 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I have never had a problem with the Allen and Malabar strains!~

but then again...I have master prints of both!~

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Re: Question about Allen strain [Re: Roadkill]
    #4218672 - 05/25/05 04:04 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

You are my master...


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Re: Question about Allen strain [Re: kira]
    #4218702 - 05/25/05 04:12 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)



not large, but thy were tasty :smile:
edit; i just used a plastic bag 4 a terrarium on this gro.


Edited by deanofmean (05/25/05 04:22 PM)


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Re: Question about Allen strain [Re: PaulAtreides]
    #4218758 - 05/25/05 04:32 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

lolzz

just don't stalk me!~

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Re: Question about Allen strain [Re: Roadkill]
    #4221153 - 05/26/05 03:48 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I cant promise that


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