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Re: telepathy test [Re: Doom]
    #4227144 - 05/27/05 03:29 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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Doom said:
man cant fly, man-built machines can.




what's the difference? A beaver can stop a river, the details of how he does it are up to his choice


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Re: telepathy test [Re: Swami]
    #4227150 - 05/27/05 03:30 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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Swami said:
Many people have had some event in there live that they may have no explanation for.

How many times have I hammered on this point? Lack of personal explanation does not equal mystical, magical nor supernatural. It only equals ignorance.

Looking back on those events declared supernatural that were later explained as more data came in; the inital assumptions made were universally wrong.




and what is the difference between magic and ignorance of the beholder? Magic IS an action which the beholder can not explain due to lack of knowledge.


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Re: telepathy test [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4227635 - 05/27/05 06:08 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

This was well-covered in the David Blaine thread on street magic and applies to telpathy as well.

Ignorance says: I don't know how he did it.

Magic says: He must have some advanced mental power.


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Re: telepathy test [Re: Swami]
    #4227693 - 05/27/05 06:21 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

magic can be an illusion, this is the kind of magic many magicians do, it can also be technology: a TV is magic to some isolated primitive tribe
It can be unknown natural phenomenon: lightning probably used to be some godly magic to people before we figured out what it is
And in this cathegory you could squese some undiscovered natural abilities of human beings, or hidden nature of consciousness

Non of this is supernatural, because supernatural can not exist. Only fools believe in that word. But we are far from understanding everything. It is quite possible that there are some phenomenons in nature and universe or properties of human body that might seem unbelivable now, but will be taught in future schools.

It is only logical that poeple of today would consider future scientific discoveries as something impossible. Those minds that can imagine and believe in "impossible" are the ones who bring it to us: like Edison or Einstein

Telepathy might belong to any of the above cathegories, being least likely technology, and most likely illusion and a trick, with the option of it being a natural ability of all human beings on the close second place


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Re: telepathy test *DELETED* [Re: Swami]
    #4230852 - 05/28/05 05:23 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: telepathy test [Re: wandrnshaman]
    #4231066 - 05/28/05 06:57 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

...and the world remains flat for the skeptic while the rest of humanity pushes onward.

Too bad.


Care to translate? How does astrology and UFOlogy push the world forward?


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Re: telepathy test [Re: Swami]
    #4231090 - 05/28/05 07:03 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

astrology has no scientific basis as of today, ufology does: an alien being CAN exist, and alien scapecraft CAN exist, non of them brake any modern scientific laws, so I wouldn't put these in the same basket


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Re: telepathy test *DELETED* [Re: Swami]
    #4231092 - 05/28/05 07:04 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: telepathy test [Re: Swami]
    #4231093 - 05/28/05 07:04 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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Swami said:
How does astrology and UFOlogy push the world forward?



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By studying and/or trying to understand that which we do not yet fully understand.... 
(I know you didn't ask me, but it was the first thing I thought of....)  :heart:


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Re: telepathy test [Re: wandrnshaman]
    #4231111 - 05/28/05 07:12 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

That was in regard to skeptics. If we all remained skeptical and sleepy, no advancements would be achieved.

Now you must add the word "sleepy" to skeptical. This does not show faith in your stance that you must try to shore it up.

You and everyone here is using some technology that I have contributed to. None of you are using ANY technology contributed by belief in telepathy.


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Re: telepathy test [Re: Swami]
    #4231126 - 05/28/05 07:18 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

confirmation of existance of telepathy could help us better understand the nature of our brain and mind. Not every knowledge is technical in nature. Knowing what a brain does in sleep does not make any new technology, but it is good to know such information after all


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    #4231133 - 05/28/05 07:21 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: telepathy test [Re: wandrnshaman]
    #4231270 - 05/28/05 07:56 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Are you using the internet, satellite TV, a cell phone, drive a car? I contributed in mminor ways to all of these; yet you still maintain a skeptic gives nothing to society. Facts have no meaning; only your unsubstantiated opinion? Are logic and reason and truth in your lexicon?


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Re: telepathy test [Re: Swami]
    #4231285 - 05/28/05 08:00 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Swami, may I ask, why do you keep putting reason and logic against things that you consider "parantormal"? How does reason dictate what you think about UFOs or telepathy?


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Re: telepathy test [Re: Swami]
    #4231355 - 05/28/05 08:11 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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Swami said:
Are you using the internet, satellite TV, a cell phone, drive a car? I contributed in mminor ways  to all of these



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Heh, true fact - I engineered/designed a lot of the plastic bottles you have in ALL of your homes right now....    (if you use or buy stuff in plastic bottles....)  My technical artistic expressions in 3D form....  In a way, I have already changed the world (a little bit)....  :grin:


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Re: telepathy test [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4231357 - 05/28/05 08:11 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Amidst the jokes and one-liners, I have outlined eveything v-e-r-y clearly in my numerous posts. Do a search else I would have to repeat thousands of posts to adequtely answer your question.

In short, people all-too-frequently jump to the wrong conclusion and assume it is correct. Not one single paranormal claim has EVER panned out; not ONE!


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Re: telepathy test [Re: Swami]
    #4231369 - 05/28/05 08:13 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

But it is not rational to conclude non of them are untrue, nor is it rational to conclude that they are. What is rational is not to conclude at all


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Re: telepathy test [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4231400 - 05/28/05 08:19 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Be honest now. Can you do that?

If I told you there was a grizzly bear in your bedroom, what would be your conclusion?

BTW, there is a big, mean one there RIGHT NOW!


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Re: telepathy test [Re: Swami]
    #4231490 - 05/28/05 08:33 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

one thing is jumping a bit to a conclusion just for fun, and another thing is taking your belief seriously, betting on it, judging on it, and spreading it.

As for your case with a bear:
As a sign of good will, I'd be ready to give you the benefit of a doubt and say, ok supose there is a bear right there.
But I wouldn't bet my life on it, just as I wouldn't bet my life on the question of aliens, religion, afterlife, telepathy or anything on the margin like that.

I do have my opinion on all of these subjects but this opinion is mostly double, it changes from day to day depending on where I let my thoughts wonder, which you can see from my posts: one day I'm defending one side, the other day I'm defending the other side, usually I chose to defend the one that is weaker at the moment.
In these questions there is enough material to lead your mind into one way of thinking or another way of thinking. Since there is a way to find logic and sense in both sides of these issues, steering one way or another way is as easy as riding a bicycle, you just have to know how to get in the mood of the certain side of the argument.


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Re: telepathy test [Re: Ego Death]
    #4235879 - 05/30/05 05:51 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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danoEoboy said:
I'LL TAKE THE CHALLENGE!
Who do I call then?




So did you take the challenge?

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