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Friend has a question...no dry verm layer, still remove tape?
    #4213561 - 05/24/05 11:33 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

She is growing, and just inoculated last night. She did two batches, 7 jars of argentina and 5 of south african. The first 7, she didn't put the dry verm layer on top for whatever reason. The last 5 she did.

She heard removing the tape helps with growth speed...should she remove the tape even on the ones without the dry verm layer?


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Re: Friend has a question...no dry verm layer, still remove tape? [Re: myndreach]
    #4213584 - 05/24/05 11:43 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

try getting a breathable tape like medical tape


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Re: Friend has a question...no dry verm layer, still remove tape? [Re: lowdominion]
    #4213630 - 05/24/05 12:05 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

How about putting a coffee filter over it and rubber-banding it down?

What about a paper towel? They "breathe" enough, right?


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Re: Friend has a question...no dry verm layer, still remove tape? [Re: myndreach]
    #4213713 - 05/24/05 12:43 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

yes both will keep dust and large particles off but are not true filter in the sense they are filtering out cotaminants


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Re: Friend has a question...no dry verm layer, still remove tape? [Re: lowdominion]
    #4213723 - 05/24/05 12:44 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

look for first class envelopes at the post office there made of tyvek use those over the lid and under the band make a great contam barrier and are gas permeable


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Re: Friend has a question...no dry verm layer, still remove tape? [Re: lowdominion]
    #4213730 - 05/24/05 12:47 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

just remember to put the printed side out. tyvek only breaths one way. lets stuff out but not in. this is what i understand from building houses. if your post office doesn't have any, do you know anyone in the construction field.


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Re: Friend has a question...no dry verm layer, still remove tape? [Re: lowdominion]
    #4213735 - 05/24/05 12:48 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Right...tyvek, correct?

I'll get some tomorrow...no car today. Any other sources of tyvek I may have lying around the house?

The lids are the two piece metal lids, I don't want to open them to slide the tyvek in...I'll probably just pull it tight down over the lid and tape or rubberband it into place.


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Re: Friend has a question...no dry verm layer, still remove tape? [Re: myndreach]
    #4213742 - 05/24/05 12:50 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

you can probably just pull the outer ring while leaving the lid in place and put the tyvek under it.


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Re: Friend has a question...no dry verm layer, still remove tape? [Re: backupwards]
    #4213753 - 05/24/05 12:53 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

The disk-lid won't pop off? Sounds a bit risky! Heh...


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Re: Friend has a question...no dry verm layer, still remove tape? [Re: myndreach]
    #4213799 - 05/24/05 01:05 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

loosen the ring and then hold the lid with a finger and take the ring off. most of the time the lid has a slight seal because of the rubber on it. then slip in the tyvek and put the ring back on. just don't do as i did once and screw it down too tight. had to use channel locks to remove them one time, what a bitch.


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Re: Friend has a question...no dry verm layer, still remove tape? [Re: myndreach]
    #4213862 - 05/24/05 01:18 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

The large "Priority Mail" envelopes at the post office are made of "Tyvek" and are two way breathable and will allow minimal gas exchange without lettin contams in. You should put it over your lid and screw the ring over it.
Your lid should not pop off unless you pc'ed it with the seal down and the holes taped while cookin. If you did it this way when you remove the tape it will suck in air due to the vacume in the jar, if so try to do this in as clean enviroment as possible.
If you have the lid upside down or no tape on the holes with lid covered with foil, then you can simply take off the outer ring set the tyvek on the lid and screw the ring back on.

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Re: Friend has a question...no dry verm layer, still remove tape? [Re: ultralight]
    #4213946 - 05/24/05 01:39 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Are the FEDEX envelopes tyvek also? My friend has some and says they are a bit "plasticy" feeling. I told him tyvek is breathable and that white stuff the priority mail envelopes are made out of. He said he thinks these are the same thing...

Anyone know?


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Re: Friend has a question...no dry verm layer, still remove tape? [Re: myndreach]
    #4213989 - 05/24/05 01:57 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

If they do not say "DuPont Tyvek" on the envelope then they are not.

most of the others that look like that are made of recycled material.


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Re: Friend has a question...no dry verm layer, still remove tape? [Re: ultralight]
    #4214547 - 05/24/05 04:23 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

coffee filters wouldn't be just as good? i have some here, and don't have a car to go get tyvek


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Re: Friend has a question...no dry verm layer, still remove tape? [Re: myndreach]
    #4214702 - 05/24/05 05:07 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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coffee filters wouldn't be just as good?



Coffee filters make great dust covers but they will not filter out microscopic contaminants.


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