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The Bering Straight theory
    #4213386 - 05/24/05 10:16 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

History teaches us that sometime about 17,000 years ago , man migrated across the Bering Straits. Then slowly worked his way down to Central & South America.

I was wondering if anyone has given any thought as to why cultures in Central & South America were so advanced ?
They were into archtitecture & astronomy . They had very sophiticated societies that paled the North American culture.
The North Americans were living on the ground in TeePees & barely geeking out a living , yet , supposedly they predate the South American cultures.
There are a few more interesting facts , but I'll wait to get a little input before I delve off into them.


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Re: The Bering Straight theory [Re: Urb]
    #4213473 - 05/24/05 10:58 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

This may relate more to a choice of lifestyle and a dedication to that lifestyle than it does to how long each civilization had to develop.

What I mean is, Native Americans may have lived the way they did by choice, to some degree. They had a great amount of respect for nature and the world that provided for them, and therefore chose to maintain a lifestyle with a great respect for the land. They took only what they needed, and always paid back what they took physically with the spiritual aspects of their lifestyle. A lifestyle of excess (such as unnecessary gigantic stone pyramid structures) does not seem to fit with the Native American spiritual beliefs.

This is just a theory, completely off the top of my head. Don't know, really... just thought I'd throw it out there as food for thought.


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Re: The Bering Straight theory [Re: Urb]
    #4213587 - 05/24/05 11:44 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

"geeking out a living"

Actually, computer nerds came along much later...


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Re: The Bering Straight theory [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #4213597 - 05/24/05 11:49 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

"Native Americans may have lived the way they did by choice, to some degree"

That and a nomadic lifestyle following the buffalo doesn't lend itself to studying architecture or astronomy.

The Indians, had they been left alone in America, would still be hunting buffalo on the plains.  The water would be drinkable and the air breathable.  Plenty of resources for the next million years. 

But no, white man and his "advanced" culture changed all that.

Now, we get to discuss these things on our computer and eat chips and soda while doing so.  Pretty advanced.  :confused:


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Re: The Bering Straight theory [Re: Urb]
    #4213600 - 05/24/05 11:49 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Perhaps in North America more effort was required to survive, while in South America a greater abundance of easily obtained food and less need for shelter from the elements led to greater leisure time in which to pursue these other endeavors.


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Re: The Bering Straight theory [Re: Prosgeopax]
    #4213676 - 05/24/05 12:28 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

civilizations rose and fell in the same way that batter is mixed to make a cake, the lumps of sugar subsumed into batter with plain flour and fat.

traditionally hungry states attacked the bountiful ones and broke down their proudest achievements.
sometimes a proud and cautious people, while defending itself, held back its own potential for advancement in science and art.

the protection rackets rose and are still largely in charge, so unless something happens pretty soon to share the wealth, I would expect to see all the sweet advances ploughed under into the homogeneous mixed batter.

now, who is to say which group had the most valuable teachings or sciences, and might some have yet hidden treasures so well that the hungry hordes would never find them. Might some of those treasures still be right under our noses? a possible secret knowledge could be to hold no treasures that could not be shared.


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Re: The Bering Straight theory [Re: Urb]
    #4213679 - 05/24/05 12:28 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Urb said:
History teaches us that sometime about 17,000 years ago , man migrated across the Bering Straits. Then slowly worked his way down to Central & South America.

I was wondering if anyone has given any thought as to why cultures in Central & South America were so advanced ?
They were into archtitecture & astronomy . They had very sophiticated societies that paled the North American culture.
The North Americans were living on the ground in TeePees & barely geeking out a living , yet , supposedly they predate the South American cultures.
There are a few more interesting facts , but I'll wait to get a little input before I delve off into them.




so...because the Aztecs built second-rate pyramids they are some how better than the haida or inuit? nahhh. The Haida wore suits made of bark, the inuits lived in houses made of Ice.

Yes, the Aztecs reached out to the stars and drank the blood of their enemies, but the Haida and Inuit were way cool.

If we judge a culture based on architecture and technology, then modern capitalist culture dwarfs anything before it, no fucking contest. Spaceships motherfucker, recognize.


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Re: The Bering Straight theory [Re: Doom]
    #4213863 - 05/24/05 01:18 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

*Spaceships motherfucker, recognize.

Thats way of topic.


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Re: The Bering Straight theory [Re: Urb]
    #4213881 - 05/24/05 01:21 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

ok magazine face.


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Re: The Bering Straight theory [Re: Urb]
    #4215467 - 05/24/05 07:48 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

The Central American and South American cultures were more advanced simply because they came across the Bering Straight first. Thay had more time to establish themselves. Not all of the early migration people became city dwellers, but all of the city oriented cultures were early migraters.


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Edited by Huehuecoyotl (05/24/05 08:07 PM)


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Re: The Bering Straight theory [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #4215522 - 05/24/05 07:57 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

The Indians, had they been left alone in America, would still be hunting buffalo on the plains. The water would be drinkable and the air breathable. Plenty of resources for the next million years.

This was not due to spiritual maturity, but rather short lifespans (disease, starvation, wars with other tribes) and high infant mortality. Small populations have small impacts.


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Edited by Swami (05/24/05 09:27 PM)


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Re: The Bering Straight theory [Re: Swami]
    #4215562 - 05/24/05 08:06 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I agree. They would have built cities...as some indians already were doing, and acheived a high population density. At that point they would have sought out more high yeild food supplys such as large volume farming and domesticated cattle. At this point they would have started having a negative impact on the Earth. Man is a destructive animal...it is our nature. It must be said that the Indians had reverent attitudes to nature that should not be discarded even today, but as their needs changed their values would likely have changed as well.


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Re: The Bering Straight theory [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4216609 - 05/25/05 12:29 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

At this point they would have started having a negative impact on the Earth.

They always had a negative impact on the Earth.

One of their favorite buffalo hunting techniques involved running entire herds of many thousands of animals over a cliff, then taking a few and leaving the rest to rot.


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Re: The Bering Straight theory [Re: Diploid]
    #4216677 - 05/25/05 12:51 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

*Gasp!*

What about "Dances with Wolves"?


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Re: The Bering Straight theory [Re: Swami]
    #4216702 - 05/25/05 12:59 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Wasn't that about the postman who lives in a waterworld trying to deliver his last letter and go home? :confused: What's that got to do with this thread?


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Re: The Bering Straight theory [Re: Icelander]
    #4216720 - 05/25/05 01:06 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

It is part of the "Damn Straight" theory.


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Re: The Bering Straight theory [Re: Swami]
    #4216982 - 05/25/05 02:22 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

No, "The Postman" was about the postman who delivered letters. "Danced with Wolves" just had Kevin Costner in it also.


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Re: The Bering Straight theory [Re: Urb]
    #4217345 - 05/25/05 05:19 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Urb said:
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Doom said:
Spaceships motherfucker, recognize.



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Thats way of topic.
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Doom said:
ok magazine face.







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Re: The Bering Straight theory [Re: Diploid]
    #4217695 - 05/25/05 10:08 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

that's a myth. That method was used by a limited number of tribes, and only until they figured out a better way of doing it.


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bering strait [Re: vampirism]
    #4217941 - 05/25/05 11:53 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=strait
within a couple hundred years of the earliest n.a. humans ("folsom") all pachyderms, balucotheres, camels, & most other large mammals were extinct (excepting bison & moose), killed off by heedless "harvests" until oooops all gone...


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