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Re: Media wants more photos of dead Soldiers. [Re: trendal]
    #4222975 - 05/26/05 02:32 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

What's your point, trendal?

FOX NEWS programming is identical no matter which affiliate airs it. The O'Reilly factor is the same in Dubuque as it is in Albuquerque.

I'm not talking about Fox general programming where we get to see The Simpsons and King of the Hill and That 70's Show. I'm talking about FOX NEWS.

By the way, when I visit my family in Ottawa, I watch the Fox station (channel 36) all the time for shows like the above. It's not a Canadian Fox station, it's an American one (upstate New York). They don't show news. That is restricted to their CABLE operation. That's why I have never seen Bill O'Reilly or Hannity and Colmes or Ann Coulter.



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Re: Media wants more photos of dead Soldiers. [Re: Phred]
    #4223016 - 05/26/05 02:40 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

What's your point, trendal?

You said:

"All the MSM in the US are relentlessly anti-Bush"

I was disagreeing with that, as obviously FOX News is not anti-Bush (more like pro-Bush) but is also a mainstream news-outlet.


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Re: Media wants more photos of dead Soldiers. [Re: Photoguy]
    #4223038 - 05/26/05 02:45 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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Photoguy said:
In general, i believe those parents/brothers/sisters want the pictures shown. They want the world to see the cost, see whats actually going on.

I have to do research on this kind of thing for different projects, and actually talk to people who have lost loved ones. I would say 90% say to publish photos even if a loved one is in the photograph.




Er.. I'm curious - how many have you actually spoken with?

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I believe that this has to do with the whole healing process. They want the world to see the nightmares of war, maybe so it will change the views.




There are plenty of pictures depicting the horrors of war from previous conflicts. They have changed nothing....

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Re: Media wants more photos of dead Soldiers. [Re: trendal]
    #4223040 - 05/26/05 02:46 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Well whaddya know. I did use the word "all". You were right, I was wrong. My bad.

From here on in I will have to qualify statements of that kind to read "All the MSM with the single exception of FOX News".



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Re: Media wants more photos of dead Soldiers. [Re: Phred]
    #4223048 - 05/26/05 02:49 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I would have accepted that, yes.

Or, much better, "Most of the MSM are anti-Bush". :wink:


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Re: Media wants more photos of dead Soldiers. [Re: trendal]
    #4223896 - 05/26/05 06:47 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

"Most" is probably a little too soft. It just means more than half. "Almost all" is probably the most accurate.


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Re: Media wants more photos of dead Soldiers. [Re: SoopaX]
    #4223969 - 05/26/05 07:11 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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SoopaX said:
Why did, and does always, the military vote for the Republican canditate?



Did and does always? By military, do you mean all military personnel or always some military personnel? Care to offer any supporting evidence for your assertion? I am willing to wager that you cannot. I would suspect that going back any appreciable time in history (say back to before WWI), you would find a variance in voting patterns among military personnel that would show that even a majority of them were not always politically disposed to voting Republican. Have you heard of FDR? I know military personnel who voted with the Constitution Party and/or Libertarian Party in the last election and avoided both major parties so I know they don't all support the current regime. You should also keep in mind that soldiers cannot publicly criticize their commander in chief lest they be subject to discipline. This alone would serve to quell the voicing of negative opinions in public.


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Re: Media wants more photos of dead Soldiers. [Re: Prosgeopax]
    #4225269 - 05/27/05 01:56 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Sorry about the minority majority remark, although the number is said to be around hovering around 39% right now. My numbers also took into account women as being a minority, which pushed the number to around 57% of the army composed of women, black, hispanic or other.

The military does generally vote for the commander in chief, its in-grained in them.

Im working on my masters in journalism with a concentration on photojournalism. I have a degree in political science and photojournalism--(starting next month thank god)

My background is interviewing people, it is talking to the mothers and fathers, asking them questions. I am honestly telling you they want the photographs to be published. I am currently HEAVILY involved with a newspaper orginization that is in the top 10 most popular/heavily read in the country. I deal with this issue on a daily basis.

Please pull your heads from the sand if you think that the limit of blood and gore today both in the media and the culture is anything less than an sanatization process the u.s. government is successfly doing at this period in our lives.


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