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Does "God" exist on a physical level?
    #4207321 - 05/22/05 06:44 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

The Bhagavad Gita says yes. Before, I had thought of God as the Ineffable? But can it indeed be known, if the seeker is enlightened enough, on a personal level? What are everybody's thoughts?


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Re: Does "God" exist on a physical level? [Re: the_phoenix]
    #4207333 - 05/22/05 06:48 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

If God is Omnipotent then its logical that he does have physical form. The Bagavad Gita, says that God's first material manifetstaion is Brahma who overseas all material manifestations, but the Supreme Persanality of Godhead himself is beyond form. Correct me if im wrong though........


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Re: Does "God" exist on a physical level? [Re: egghead1]
    #4207343 - 05/22/05 06:50 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

the way I see it, everything is a physical manifestation of god


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Re: Does "God" exist on a physical level? [Re: the_phoenix]
    #4207348 - 05/22/05 06:51 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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the_phoenix said:
The Bhagavad Gita says yes. Before, I had thought of God as the Ineffable? But can it indeed be known, if the seeker is enlightened enough, on a personal level? What are everybody's thoughts?



Does Physical existence exist on a spiritual level?


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Re: Does "God" exist on a physical level? [Re: Worldbridger]
    #4207376 - 05/22/05 06:58 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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Worldbridger said:
Does Physical existence exist on a spiritual level?



According to the Bhagavad Gita, yes. Cyclical time, but time ages nothing, so there is an infinite of it. Everything is done, and occasionally forgotten so as to be done anew.

Actually I'll investigate this on my end as I know an achieved Krishna devotee.


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Re: Does "God" exist on a physical level? [Re: the_phoenix]
    #4207389 - 05/22/05 07:06 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

I don't know what Bagavad Gita you were reading. But when i read it it made it very clear that there are many material worlds, and then there is the Ultimate Immaterial Spiritual Sky of Godhead. As you go through the yoga's, you can ascend through all of the material realms right to the subtle material realm of the Brahmalokas, which is considered the highest realm, before going completely beyond the material realms of time and circumstance, to the Infinite Immaterial Sky of the Supreme Personality.

At the end of each world age, the material realms collide with the immaterial completely destroying the material universe, at which point everything is absorbed into its immaterial aspect of God. The material realms manifests again through Karmic causes and the Supreme personality manifests as Brahma to once again oversea all the material manifestations and activities of the material realms, attempting to bring all beings to ultimate knowledge.


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Re: Does "God" exist on a physical level? [Re: the_phoenix]
    #4207431 - 05/22/05 07:25 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

God is.




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Re: Does "God" exist on a physical level? [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #4207515 - 05/22/05 07:57 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

I see God on the face of a well laid woman, in the inexhaustible curiosity of a child, and the misery and hopelessness of people.


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Re: Does "God" exist on a physical level? [Re: the_phoenix]
    #4207526 - 05/22/05 08:00 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

is this physical?


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Re: Does "God" exist on a physical level? [Re: Gomp]
    #4208042 - 05/22/05 10:46 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

We are all ONE. There is no true separation between anything.


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Re: Does "God" exist on a physical level? [Re: dr0mni]
    #4208091 - 05/22/05 11:02 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

:thumbup: Can't get away from it. :grin: :heart:


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Re: Does "God" exist on a physical level? [Re: the_phoenix]
    #4208582 - 05/23/05 01:30 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Does God exist in the word 'G_O_D'? or does the word exist in God? hmm. You know you can just ask yourself, Do I exist in the physical level... if so then where is it you don't exist??
Wouldn't it be a trip if God just popped up one day right before you and said, I am or some shit?!?

If you really would like to know, heres one suggestion for finding GOD... Go into a lucid dream state with the desire to meet him. Might work, but maybe it would just be the devil in disguise!


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Re: Does "God" exist on a physical level? [Re: signoffate]
    #4208601 - 05/23/05 01:37 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

I think God can exist in a higher dimension but cannot be seen or felt on our level in our three dimensions.

If God is above our dimension or can control out dimension, why would he enter our dimension? It's like, can a computer programmer who programs a video game physically enter his game?


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Re: Does "God" exist on a physical level? [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #4208855 - 05/23/05 03:14 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

TRON............


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Re: Does "God" exist on a physical level? [Re: eMotionALLmotion]
    #4208865 - 05/23/05 03:20 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, the Gods certainly can. Zeus has fathered many illegitimate children while cleverly disguised as a mortal.


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Re: Does "God" exist on a physical level? [Re: looner2]
    #4209071 - 05/23/05 05:03 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

so did bob marley


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Re: Does "God" exist on a physical level? [Re: plexus]
    #4209174 - 05/23/05 06:28 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

I doubt god exists in a physical form. I believe 'God' transcends the physical, and the metaphysical as a matter of fact and unifies them in a subtle manner which is way beyond our understanding. I believe that when holy books talk about god, they talk about it in metaphor, heaven, hell, even re-incarnation are all metaphorical concepts not to be taken literally, it is a very narrow understanding to think of god as a bearded dude who created everything because he was bored. God transcends our limited understanding, god is everything and god is nothing, we are each part of 'god', and we are but one small part of the tapestry that god weaves. We are arrogant, very arrogant, we think we can read the mind of god, we think we can understand him in a concrete, absolute manner, but we know jack really. It is this arrogance that I believe is the true root of evil in the world. It is this arrogance which leads to extremist so called 'fundamentalism'. God should be comprehended with humility and an understanding that we are in no way able to truly understand god.


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Re: Does "God" exist on a physical level? [Re: The_Walrus]
    #4209435 - 05/23/05 11:19 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

I've found that God does indeed have a physical form. It is called, the Universe...


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Re: Does "God" exist on a physical level? [Re: jcldragon]
    #4209652 - 05/23/05 12:58 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Sure. Only our 4-D World is just a very small part of him/her/it.
(Lets say for easynes) 'He' exists in very very many dimensions simultaneously...of course, because he is really everything.
The magic with him is like in a fractal...he is also completely in every part, but manifests in every place and part of the dimensions as the 'adequate' form.
If you can get a really clear indicated and 'complex' glance on him here, you can be happy. Your mindsetting was just at the same 'frequency' to receive him :wink:
Of course there are many 4-D universes and of course many other higher Dimensions.

G*D is that, with the everiest connection to everything.


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Re: Does "God" exist on a physical level? [Re: the_phoenix]
    #4210046 - 05/23/05 02:57 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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Does "God" exist on a physical level?




Maybe so, maybe not, who knows ?
Most people believe it's the work of god when they win the lottery. Therefore he has to pull some physical plugs, if you know what i mean :wink:

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