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OfflineGatorade
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About to get started - need final advise
    #4207039 - 05/22/05 03:12 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I have all my equipment ready to go, but I found some contradicting information regarding some of the steps in the PF method.

- I have 1/2 pint jars (Ball) and a 12 PSI pressure cooker. I've heard to steralize at 12 PSI for 20 minutes, but also heard to steralize the 1/2 pint jars at 12 PSI for 45 or even 80 minutes. Not sure what to do.

- Also, I am not sure where to put the foil on the jar. Does it go: Lid (with holes poked), then foil, then screw the band on over the foil?

- Also, after sterilization and the needle pokes through the foil, do I cover up the holes the needle made again (say, with electrical tape) while waiting for colonizatoin?


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Re: About to get started - need final advise [Re: Gatorade]
    #4207153 - 05/22/05 03:49 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Hey. Jars should be PC'ed at 15 psi for 45 minutes. If your PC only hits 12, PC for one hour and you should be fine.

Foil should go on after the lid and ring. It's purpose is to keep water from entering your jars while PC'ing.

You will remove the foil to inoculate. After inoculating you can set the foil back on loosely to act as a dust cover. I wouldn't use tape at all. I did when I started but the dry vermiculite layer does quite a good job. Tape was nothing but a pain in the ass.
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Re: About to get started - need final advise [Re: HippieChick]
    #4207254 - 05/22/05 04:26 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Neato, yea the tape jsut seemed it could be a pain to deal with.


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Re: About to get started - need final advise [Re: Gatorade]
    #4207411 - 05/22/05 05:14 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

If you want some easy added protection, go to the post office and get some tyvek envelopes and use as a filter.
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Re: About to get started - need final advise [Re: HippieChick]
    #4207541 - 05/22/05 06:07 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, good idea. I've gotten some advice that's REALLY worked for me.

FROM TOP TO BOTTOM

Coffee Filter w/ Rubberband
Coffee Filter w/ Rubberband
Jar Ring (tighten ALL the way, then untighten just a bit.)
Tyvek square cut to about 2in wider than the jar's top
The Jar w/ your grain

After you PC and jars cool, take the coffee filters off and inoculate.. then replace them.

Sam.


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Re: About to get started - need final advise [Re: Gatorade]
    #4207552 - 05/22/05 06:12 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

hrmmm this is some last minute changes... dunno if I can implement them cause I'm just about to get started.

Would it help to put a coffee filter right above the dried vermiculite and then put the lid on, and then put the foil on over that?

How tight should I put the foil over the top, just to prevent steam from falling in or really tight to prevent and air from moving in/out of it?

I'm about 1 hour away from mixing the ingredients and PCing the jars, this is my first time and I'm so friggin excited.


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Re: About to get started - need final advise [Re: Gatorade]
    #4207581 - 05/22/05 06:27 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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Gatorade said:.
Would it help to put a coffee filter right above the dried vermiculite and then put the lid on, and then put the foil on over that?





the aluminum foil goes on before pcing, and comes off before inoculation.
you place the coffee filters on after inoculation;
outside of the jar.
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