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    #4206331 - 05/22/05 11:01 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: dr_gonz]
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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society *DELETED* [Re: Silversoul]
    #4206337 - 05/22/05 11:05 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4206367 - 05/22/05 11:17 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

No, it's been out for a long time. Thing is: why should I care?


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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: Silversoul]
    #4206418 - 05/22/05 11:38 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

wait a minute....an elite member of american society is a member of an elite american society?

NO!!!!!

oh no...oh fuck...what if one of them gets into power? they might...they could..who knows? they could tell lies and give money to their friends or something!

I say we hit the streets with this news and protest, that will show those upstate down-home fuckers that we play for keeps!

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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society *DELETED* [Re: Silversoul]
    #4206463 - 05/22/05 11:54 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4206466 - 05/22/05 11:56 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Are you going to just be sarcastic, or are you going to answer my question? What is so terrible about being a member of Skull and Bones?


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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society *DELETED* [Re: Silversoul]
    #4206470 - 05/22/05 11:57 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4206472 - 05/22/05 11:58 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

So then what's the point of this thread?


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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society *DELETED* [Re: Silversoul]
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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: Silversoul]
    #4206484 - 05/22/05 12:03 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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Paradigm said:
Are you going to just be sarcastic, or are you going to answer my question? What is so terrible about being a member of Skull and Bones?




Our President should not have an elegance to a secret organization. Here are two short interesting videos of Bush and Kerry being asked about Skull And Bones on "Meet The Press".....


George Bush asked about Skull And Bones
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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4206558 - 05/22/05 12:19 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Ok, from what I can figure, the Skull and Bones society is into the occult. Big deal. I used to be into Wicca. I can understand that appeal. There's nothing inherently wrong with it. The fear of the occult is, I believe, rooted in the Judeo-Christian tradition, which I abandoned long ago.

Then there's the whole "secret society" thing. Nothing new there. Our very first president was a freemason, and I consider him to be one of the presidents the US ever had.

Then there's the objection about allegiance. But really, I'm far more concerned about a politician's allegience to a bunch of corporations and special interests that got him elected than to some secret occult society.

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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: Silversoul]
    #4206574 - 05/22/05 12:23 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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and I consider him to be one of the presidents the US ever had.




I will agree, he was a president. :wink:

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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: Silversoul]
    #4206602 - 05/22/05 12:28 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Then there's the objection about allegiance. But really, I'm far more concerned about a politician's allegience to a bunch of corporations and special interests that got him elected than to some secret occult society.

I think there's the fear that the leaders of the corporations and special interest groups are part of the same secret organization. But if government had no power to give special preference to certain companies than I would have no problem with a president being a member of a secret society.

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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: newuser1492]
    #4206615 - 05/22/05 12:31 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I can find no difference in allegiance to those corporate fatcats between those politicians who belong to secret societies and those that don't. They're in everyone's pockets.


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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: Silversoul]
    #4206637 - 05/22/05 12:37 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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Paradigm said: What is so terrible about being a member of Skull and Bones?




I don't know, maybe the fact that this is one branch of a 'secret' elitest network which clearly exists for the purpose of molding a society that is something to the likes of a global fascist Orwellian dictatorship through the manipulation public opinion to the point where the sheep are somehow comfortable with this fact and in some cases actually demand it become a reality for all ofus to conform to?

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But really, I'm far more concerned about a politician's allegience to a bunch of corporations and special interests that got him elected than to some secret occult society.




Which is a fair position to be had, although I might point out that in a number of cases a bunch of these corporte and banking institutions, and their top officials can also be traced back as being a part of this network's agenda.. They are one in the same.

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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: Silversoul]
    #4206670 - 05/22/05 12:48 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

What? you don't give a shit about your president being a member of a secret society?

making decisions that affect all americans and all of the world should definitely not be done in secret. that's just not how you do things. you're supposed to do things out in the open when you are elected by the people.

any society or institution that hints that there is something hidden is a legitimate subject for investigation. but who's gonna have the balls to investigate skull and bones, huh? no one, and they know it.


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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: exclusive58]
    #4206696 - 05/22/05 12:54 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

so what are you gonna do about drgonz? other than talk shit on the internet?

If you are proactive enought to be able to look down upon us sheep, (althought Im not an american so...not my problem...) then you MUST have a plan of action to fuck up the system right? enlighten us!

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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: exclusive58]
    #4206699 - 05/22/05 12:54 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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I don't know, maybe the fact that this is one branch of a 'secret' elitest network which clearly exists for the purpose of molding a society that is something to the likes of a global fascist Orwellian dictatorship through the manipulation public opinion to the point where the sheep are somehow comfortable with this fact and in some cases actually demand it become a reality for all ofus to conform to?



I'd love to see you back up those statements you just made.

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What? you don't give a shit about your president being a member of a secret society?

making decisions that affect all americans and all of the world should definitely not be done in secret. that's just not how you do things. you're supposed to do things out in the open when you are elected by the people.

any society or institution that hints that there is something hidden is a legitimate subject for investigation. but who's gonna have the balls to investigate skull and bones, huh? no one, and they know it.



I care about a president's actions, not who inspired them. If it helps America, good. If it hurts us, then I'll oppose it, regardless of idea it is.


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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society *DELETED* [Re: Doom]
    #4206722 - 05/22/05 01:01 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4206731 - 05/22/05 01:03 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

thats what I thought, just another lazy American exercising his/her right to free speech. OK, run along now...go drink your Slurpee and eat your cheeze whiz nacho burger..

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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4206742 - 05/22/05 01:05 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Sheep? Sounds like Bush isn't the only elitist here.


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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society *DELETED* [Re: Silversoul]
    #4206748 - 05/22/05 01:08 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4206756 - 05/22/05 01:11 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Beautiful qualities? Don't give me that bullshit. Just because I don't buy into every paranoid conspiracy theory doesn't mean I like Bush. Some of us can actually think for ourselves rather than reflexively condemning everything the man does.


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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: Silversoul]
    #4206760 - 05/22/05 01:12 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

drgonz, you failed to answer my question...what are you DOING about this problem of yours?

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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society *DELETED* *DELETED* [Re: Silversoul]
    #4206761 - 05/22/05 01:12 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: Silversoul]
    #4206763 - 05/22/05 01:13 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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I care about a president's actions, not who inspired them.




Yes..let us all just focus all of our attention on the front men and ignore all the intricate machinery we know is operating in and around him and his actions.. let the truth be fogged over by smokescreens so we can shift the blame toward only that which we have been trained to see on the surface..

Illuminati? Skull & Bones? Bilderberg..? Obviously these are all completely fabricated notions pulled out of the asses of the paranoid and deluted.

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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society *DELETED* [Re: Doom]
    #4206764 - 05/22/05 01:13 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4206767 - 05/22/05 01:14 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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drgonz said:
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Beautiful qualities? Shut the fuck up. Just because I don't buy into every paranoid conspiracy theory doesn't mean I like Bush. Some of us can actually think for ourselves rather than condemning everything the man does.




To think for yourself you must question authority.



Who says I don't? Please heed the sign:



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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: usefulidiot]
    #4206770 - 05/22/05 01:15 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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usefulidiot said:
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I care about a president's actions, not who inspired them.




Yes..let us all just focus all of our attention on the front men and ignore all the intricate machinery we know is operating in and around him and his actions.. let the truth be fogged over by smokescreens so we can shift the blame toward only that which we have been trained to see on the surface..

Illuminati? Skull & Bones? Bilderberg..? Obviously these are all completely fabricated notions pulled out of the asses of the paranoid and deluted.



Why does any of that shit matter if it's the actions that affect us?


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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4206775 - 05/22/05 01:17 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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drgonz said:
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Doom said:
drgonz, you failed to answer my question...what are you DOING about this problem of yours?




Hmmm, what in the fuck can I or anyone do? You damn well know - nothing. All we can do is sit by and watch the show.




wow, an elitist defeatist, how extraordinary. Obviously your president isn't that big of a deal for you if his vileness has failed to inspire a revolutionary fervor inside yourself.

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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society *DELETED* [Re: Doom]
    #4206779 - 05/22/05 01:19 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4206784 - 05/22/05 01:21 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Check this out dragonz.  It's a "60 Minutes" segment about Skull And Bones.  I can't remember where I found it.  I may have actually downloaded it from one of you guys, actually.  Either way, I recommend everyone checking this out.  It's interesting regardless of what your opinion of Bush's ellegence to this secret society is.

Also, this video has a bonus.  The woman exposing the secrets of the organization in this video is HOT. :loveeyes:


60 Minutes - Skull And Bones segment
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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4206792 - 05/22/05 01:23 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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So quick to pass judgement upon others? I'm far from an elitist... you on the other hand...



What a bunch of bullshit. You call us sheep and then say you're not passing judgement on others? How far up your ass does your head have to go to say such a thing?


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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: Silversoul]
    #4206822 - 05/22/05 01:30 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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Why does any of that shit matter if it's the actions that affect us?




Well isn't it the people's formost opinions and concerns that should be what is recognized and used by elected officials to define all aspects of the future of a country, and not particularly what the fascist agenda requires? I guess it matters to me because clearly, we the people are not in control of this run-away corporate-political regime. Everything they touch seems to be riddled with fraud, I mean it's not like there is even a point to voting anymore.. (or was there ever?)

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    #4206823 - 05/22/05 01:30 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: Silversoul]
    #4206824 - 05/22/05 01:30 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Everyone is a sheep, just some realize it.....


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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: barfightlard]
    #4206839 - 05/22/05 01:35 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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bellylard said:
Everyone is a sheep, just some realize it.....




While others follow the one infront of them without question..

And then of course there are others who feel the need to assume the position of being a sheep dog..

Using more fear to keep those who may question things in line..

Some just don't know any better, unfortunately.

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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: usefulidiot]
    #4206845 - 05/22/05 01:38 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

The means do not matter in our country, only the ends.

Just like Paradigm said, if something good is done, it doesn't matter how it was done. All that is important is that it was done.

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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4206875 - 05/22/05 01:51 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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drgonz said:
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drgonz said:
So quick to pass judgement upon others? I'm far from an elitist... you on the other hand...



What a bunch of bullshit. You call us sheep and then say you're not passing judgement on others? How far up your ass does your head have to go to say such a thing?




Listen to your tone man. ALL I tried to do was pass along information about our president. YOU on the other hand come along and BASH the very idea that our president could ever be corrupt. You refuse to step outside your normal thinking bounds for a second to analyze the possibility that our president might actually operate upon his own self indulgent hidden agendas.



Did you or did you not call us sheep? You're spewing so much bullshit I can hardly breathe. You don't know shit about me. I never said the president didn't have a hidden agenda. He'd have such an agenda regardless of whether or not he's in Skull & Bones. For your information, I don't like Bush and I didn't vote for him. Why can't you see that questioning some looney conspiracy garbage is not the same as supporting Bush?


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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4206908 - 05/22/05 02:13 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

It's the same shit that's been posted over and over and over again by conspiracy nuts. You're not doing anything here that hasn't been done dozens of times before. And it's been debunked about as many times. Is Bush a member of Skull & Bones? Yes he is. Is that anything to worry about? I have yet to see evidence from any reliable sources to suggest it is. It's mostly just alarmism from people who think that if he keeps any secrets that it's proof of a New World Order that's going to enslave us all, and then ironically call the rest of us "sheep" for not believing everything they say.


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Re: Bush - member of Skull and Crossbones secret society [Re: Silversoul]
    #4206912 - 05/22/05 02:15 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

What little content this thread had has been drowned in the resulting flamefest.

Locked to prevent the participants from getting even more out of line -- which would regrettably result in bans being handed out.




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