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Invisiblenewuser1492
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Providing for children
    #4203304 - 05/21/05 12:11 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Most parents I know and people in general enjoying bringing their children pleasure. Physically that might entail rubbing their back or tickling them. Parents often even kiss their children on the mouth. Why is such physical caring limited in situations that pose no physical risk? A parent might rub a child's belly or even put their mouth to it and blow to tickle the child. And yet an average parent would dare not move a few inches lower to provide even greater pleasure to the child. Any stigmata surrounding such an action is societal and unlikely to be genetic. Why then would a parent feel such aversion to manually bringing a child to climax? Is that not the ultimate in physical pleasure a person could bring to a child? Why has society engrained such a belief and feeling in humanity even though it can serve little helpful purpose I can infer.


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Re: Providing for children [Re: newuser1492]
    #4203388 - 05/21/05 12:33 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Why then would a parent feel such aversion to manually bringing a child to climax? Is that not the ultimate in physical pleasure a person could bring to a child?

If you truly sought real answers, you would look up developmental psychology, and/or consult a professional psychologist yourself. Yes, believe it or not, there ARE valid, real-life reasons why such circumstances are a danger to a child's developmental growth and psyche.

I've read some statistics stating that most women in the porn industry were introduced to sexuality at an early age, one way or another. So because such sexual matters were injected into their world at a very pivotal part of their lives, it colors their view of sexuality for life.

Any stigmata surrounding such an action is societal and unlikely to be genetic.

Did it ever occur to you that perhaps most, if not all societal customs, stigmas and norms stem from an instinctive/genetic source? The simple, objective drives of our genetics and instincts may still be complicated into subjective misinterpretations, of course, but that's beside the point..

Taking your case as an example, it isn't too hard to see how it would be beneficial to keep our children from turning into sexually unhealthy adults for the benefit of the human race, is it? And yes, our brains and bodies are very, very, very old. They have evolved for ages upon ages, and are not dummies.

But, like I said... if you truly wished to seek real answers..




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Re: Providing for children [Re: newuser1492]
    #4203511 - 05/21/05 12:59 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Please do not have children.


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Re: Providing for children [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #4203517 - 05/21/05 01:01 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I feel you are wasting your effort. This was a blatant troll.


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Invisiblenewuser1492
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Re: Providing for children [Re: newuser1492]
    #4203690 - 05/21/05 02:18 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

So because such sexual matters were injected into their world at a very pivotal part of their lives, it colors their view of sexuality for life.

And what's the problem with that? Why does society feel sexuality must be such an important or taboo matter? I see it as just one more physical sensation rather something special or unique.

And don't worry I don't plan on having children.


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Re: Providing for children [Re: newuser1492]
    #4203698 - 05/21/05 02:22 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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cb9fl said:
So because such sexual matters were injected into their world at a very pivotal part of their lives, it colors their view of sexuality for life.

And what's the problem with that? Why does society feel sexuality must be such an important or taboo matter? I see it as just one more physical sensation rather something special or unique.

And don't worry I don't plan on having children.




because *society* is interested in raising mentally healthy, crime-free law-abiding families who dont try suck to off the paperboy.


Edited by Doom (05/21/05 02:52 PM)


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Re: Providing for children [Re: newuser1492]
    #4203765 - 05/21/05 02:44 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

cb9fl said:
Most parents I know and people in general enjoying bringing their children pleasure. Physically that might entail rubbing their back or tickling them. Parents often even kiss their children on the mouth. Why is such physical caring limited in situations that pose no physical risk? A parent might rub a child's belly or even put their mouth to it and blow to tickle the child. And yet an average parent would dare not move a few inches lower to provide even greater pleasure to the child. Any stigmata surrounding such an action is societal and unlikely to be genetic. Why then would a parent feel such aversion to manually bringing a child to climax? Is that not the ultimate in physical pleasure a person could bring to a child? Why has society engrained such a belief and feeling in humanity even though it can serve little helpful purpose I can infer.




If you wish to give a blowjob to your son, go right ahead, we won't judge you
but why ask why others don't do it? They don't feel like doing it so they don't. They would feel bad if they have done it.


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Re: Providing for children [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4203780 - 05/21/05 02:48 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhg


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Re: Providing for children [Re: looner2]
    #4203804 - 05/21/05 02:54 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I wouldn't be surprised that with recent discussions here, the Justice Department is now monitoring this site for paedophile activity. While they're at it, I'm sure they wouldn't mind busting a few people for mushroom related offenses. There's nothing like ruining it for the rest of us.


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Re: Providing for children [Re: Adviapacis]
    #4203814 - 05/21/05 02:55 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)



***newsflash: mushroom use leads to paedophilia***

how long before Fox picks it up?


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Re: Providing for children [Re: Doom]
    #4203821 - 05/21/05 02:57 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Sadly, I'm sure that there are those who would point to the discussions here and come to that erroneous conclusion.


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Re: Providing for children [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4203823 - 05/21/05 02:57 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

If you wish to give a blowjob to your son, go right ahead, we won't judge you
but why ask why others don't do it? They don't feel like doing it so they don't. They would feel bad if they have done it.


Others most certainly would judge but that wasn't my question. My question was why don't people want to do that? I don't see how it can have any negative physical aspects, only positive. If it devalues sexuality well what's the problem with that? Why does sexuality have to be such a special thing.


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Re: Providing for children [Re: Adviapacis]
    #4203825 - 05/21/05 02:58 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Did we ever have one case of pedophilia here? I mean someone that did it or would like to do it?


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Re: Providing for children [Re: newuser1492]
    #4203835 - 05/21/05 03:00 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

cb9fl said:
If you wish to give a blowjob to your son, go right ahead, we won't judge you
but why ask why others don't do it? They don't feel like doing it so they don't. They would feel bad if they have done it.


Others most certainly would judge but that wasn't my question. My question was why don't people want to do that? I don't see how it can have any negative physical aspects, only positive. If it devalues sexuality well what's the problem with that? Why does sexuality have to be such a special thing.




yes, others would judge, myself included, and if you were my neighbor, my judgment would be expressed by, firstly, beating you with a pipe in a dark alley, and secondly, having you imprisoned by the state.

Possibly a hateful, animalistic reaction on my part, but you know...go with the flow and be one with the dao...etc.


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Re: Providing for children [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4203837 - 05/21/05 03:01 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I don't know, but I do know that law enforcement agencies take complaints of such activity very seriously, more seriously than mushrooom growing for personal use. If it appears to some that there are adults on this board hoping to bed children, there are many agencies who would be willing to set up sting operations.


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Re: Providing for children [Re: newuser1492]
    #4203841 - 05/21/05 03:02 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

well since the whole thing with incest was started because of the idea that it is not healthy and is dangerous for reproduction
it was decided that a line will be drawn, and not only reproduction will be not practiced but any sexual behaviour will not be practiced either.

giving such pleasure to the child could lead into feelings of sexual attachment toward the mother/father and could lead into a relationship, and untimatly the question: we are in love, why don't we have children?

So to prevent all that it is best to stay away from the family at all.

And besides, while incest between brothers and siters might be something that you can find here and there in nature, I've never heard of a young one having sex with his mother


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Re: Providing for children [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4203876 - 05/21/05 03:15 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I wasn't talking about intercourse. I can see major genetic problems stemming from such an action.


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Re: Providing for children [Re: newuser1492]
    #4203882 - 05/21/05 03:16 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

edit: I've compleatly misread your post.. so I write mine again

anyway..giving pleasure to children can get them attached to you, have a crush on you, and wish a relationship and real sex.
Some parents might go for that




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Edited by OldWoodSpecter (05/21/05 03:19 PM)


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Re: Providing for children [Re: newuser1492]
    #4203883 - 05/21/05 03:16 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

cb9fl said:
I wasn't talking about intercourse. I can see major genetic problems stemming from such an action.




so just blowjobs? ahhhh, ok.


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Re: Providing for children [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4203931 - 05/21/05 03:28 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

giving pleasure to children can get them attached to you, have a crush on you, and wish a relationship and real sex.

Do you think that's societal or insate? Why would a child automatically associate sexual gradification with emotional attachment?


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