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Question about PF Tek
    #4198660 - 05/20/05 08:30 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Hi, im a little confused about one thing. My jars have colonized completely after only about a week and a half. The tek here says that now i should expose them to (indirect) sunlight while in-jar. However ive heard from other sources that i should birth them now before pinning and expose them to sunlight (or flourescent, etc.)

What do you guys think my best course of action is?

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Re: Question about PF Tek [Re: divinityinfinity]
    #4198665 - 05/20/05 08:32 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Birth from the jar, dunk and roll. Then place in the fruiting chamber. That's your best bet.

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Re: Question about PF Tek [Re: Sammy]
    #4198675 - 05/20/05 08:36 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

ok, ive read the faq about dunk and roll and all it says is "dunk the cake and roll it in vermiculite" i assume dunk it in sterilized water?

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Re: Question about PF Tek [Re: divinityinfinity]
    #4198699 - 05/20/05 08:42 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Boil water and let chlorine dissipate out of the water for a few hours if you want to be safe.. or you can buy some h2o from the store. The vermicluite should also be sterile.

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Re: Question about PF Tek [Re: Sammy]
    #4198796 - 05/20/05 09:07 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

hmm, how come in some of the PFTEK's it says to just move the cakes into the fruiting chamber.? how do you birth from the jar, like how long and what conditions and dunk for 12-24hrs?

ah BTW first signs of colonization on one of my half-pint jars this morning, excited :laugh:


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Re: Question about PF Tek [Re: keith813]
    #4198824 - 05/20/05 09:14 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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keith813 said:
hmm, how come in some of the PFTEK's it says to just move the cakes into the fruiting chamber.? how do you birth from the jar, like how long and what conditions and dunk for 12-24hrs?





I would imagine that it would be fine to move the cakes directly into the fruiting chamber without doing anything like that to it... unless there is some great benefit from taking the extra steps, which I'm sure there is if people are doing it... :grin:

I'm interested in this as well. :wink:

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Re: Question about PF Tek [Re: keith813]
    #4198928 - 05/20/05 09:43 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

why?

because dunking was invented after the pf tek was already written.

dunking really helps the cakes recover moisture that was lost during colonization.

dunking will increase the size of your flush!~

don't believe me...try doing both.
dunk a few cakes...and don't dunk a few.
you will see first hand that dunking helps.

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Re: Question about PF Tek [Re: fireworks_god]
    #4198942 - 05/20/05 09:45 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

i have been doing the pf tek for over 2 years and i never dunk and rolled the first flush...ANYWAYS,about the jars...if there colonized completely and you can see pinning in the jars..there ready to be birthed into the chamber...you do not give them light in the jars.....in the chamber i do 12 light and 12 dark...after first flush i dunk for 8-12 hours, then place them back into the chamber with no rolling of verm...i believe the verm will dry them out and they need the water to rehydrate the cakes...(but that is my theory)....

the thing is it took a week to colonized completely??? that is very fast...are you sure it is not cobweb??? is it pinning???


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Re: Question about PF Tek [Re: starptv23]
    #4199305 - 05/20/05 11:40 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

starp - so you wait until u can see pinning in the jars to move it to the fruiting chamber?? and pinning starts in the jars even with no light?

roadkill- i will dunk half of my jars and not dunk the others, and post back on here  the results :smile: thx for your help.. (i still have like a week or so until all my jars colonize :blush: )


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Re: Question about PF Tek [Re: keith813]
    #4199330 - 05/20/05 11:49 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

i wait till i can see the white circles in the jars..

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i hope that helps you...and yes dunking works...i personaly dont do it for the 1st flush...but when you dunk you get an awsume result..for at least 4-5 flushs :thumbup: :grin:


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Edited by starptv23 (05/20/05 11:52 AM)

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Re: Question about PF Tek [Re: divinityinfinity]
    #4199341 - 05/20/05 11:53 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

oh yes pinning starts with no light...


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Re: Question about PF Tek [Re: starptv23]
    #4200707 - 05/20/05 05:11 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Just wondering what strain you are growing. My buddy has grown Amazon & and b+. I can tell you from this, if it is Amazonian I agree w/ starp. They will definitely pin in the jars. As for the b+, he has grown them twice and neither time did they pin in the jars. After about 5 days of full colonization he birthed them and dunk and rolled. Then about 8 days later they started pinning. This just his own experience. Good Luck!


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Re: Question about PF Tek [Re: Aiko Aiko]
    #4200848 - 05/20/05 05:45 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

/me is growing aussie strand :blush:


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Re: Question about PF Tek [Re: keith813]
    #4201025 - 05/20/05 06:43 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not sure about that strain, but Sammy is probably right. Birth, dunk, and roll away! Have fun!


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Re: Question about PF Tek [Re: Aiko Aiko]
    #4202896 - 05/21/05 10:01 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

okie, yah definatley amazonian and definatley not cobweb. haha my little guys must just have been happy.

i birthed them though and placed them in the fruiting chamber...no dunk and roll though i honestly dont think im experienced enough to do that, im still a little nervous about where i touched them...

they ARE looking a little dry. Ive heard of misting from 12 inches away, is this a good way to get them hydrated? Ive got a TIT setup w/perlite goin

so, consensus is...no sunlight and just wait for the pins?

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Re: Question about PF Tek [Re: divinityinfinity]
    #4204305 - 05/21/05 05:30 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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divinityinfinity said:is this a good way to get them hydrated?




a good way to get them hydrated is by dunking like many suggested above.

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divinityinfinity said:so, consensus is...no sunlight and just wait for the pins?




No, the consensus is to have 12hours light and 12 hours dark a day.

Good Luck man.  Hope they start pinning soon for ya :thumbup:

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Re: Question about PF Tek [Re: CLUTCH]
    #4204511 - 05/21/05 07:01 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

ah haaa its 'lady' but whatevs

thanks for ya'lls help. better go turn on the light :laugh:

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Re: Question about PF Tek [Re: divinityinfinity]
    #4204531 - 05/21/05 07:13 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

:blush:

My appologies mam, :flowers:

It is nice to see some ladies interested in the hobbie.  :rasta:

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Re: Question about PF Tek [Re: divinityinfinity]
    #4204609 - 05/21/05 07:53 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I have to ask what strain(s) are you working with to get such fast colonization?

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Re: Question about PF Tek [Re: divinityinfinity]
    #4205944 - 05/22/05 06:43 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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divinityinfinity said:
okie, yah definatley amazonian and definatley not cobweb. haha my little guys must just have been happy.




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