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techniques for using mushrooms?
    #4199306 - 05/20/05 01:41 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

I am going to be trip sitting two friends soon for their first time with shrooms. They really want to experience the spiritual side of them. Does anyone have any good techniques or excersises to do when on shrooms for spritual purposes?


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Re: techniques for using mushrooms? [Re: trippingchef]
    #4199426 - 05/20/05 02:30 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

Yoga, meditation, chanting, drum circles, dancing, digeridoos


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The clouds above us join & separate,
The breeze in the courtyard leaves & returns.
Like is like that, so why not relax?
Who can stop us from celebrating?

-Lu Yu


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Re: techniques for using mushrooms? [Re: trippingchef]
    #4199450 - 05/20/05 02:35 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

You can't force any specific kind of trip really, but if they are really stable people then they should just aim for a really high dose. That said, nothing I have ever experienced on shrooms has ever been anywhere near as spiritual as what I have experienced off them. My personal bias is that many people who say shrooms are spiritual don't really know true spirituality. I greatly respect those who use them to help them on the path to spirituality, but I would say that the reflection that comes afterwards is far more important in this process than just lying back and being taught because you are tripping and that true spiritual experiences will relief you of the need to use shrooms in the future. To gain greater spiritual understanding, one must be willing to do more than just take a substance. That said, I suspect that by them merely thinking more about spiritual things they will be more likely to have a spiritual trip. You might also try relative silence to help promote inner work. Have them close their eyes and not talk too much. They will have to do something with their minds. Developing spiritual understanding is blissful, but to truly understand what is going on, on must face some pain first. If they think this will be a quick fix for lack of spirituality then I fear only by being broken with a hard dose may they ever really understand. It is wonderful to hear of people using these substances in this way. Wish them my best.


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Re: techniques for using mushrooms? [Re: dumbsnake34]
    #4199863 - 05/20/05 04:02 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

I think by spiritual trip, you may be refering to inducing a mystical experience. There are two ways that this can be done I think:

Apophatic Mysticism - "emptying the self from extraneous stimuli". Basically this includes practices like meditation, gazing at a mandala, an icon, cross, etc, repitition of a mantra.

Kataphatic Mysticism - "heighten bodily movement and sensory stimulation". Chanting, rythmic movement, dancing, etc.

source = nadia.delicata.net


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