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heating pad under fruiting chamber
    #4197206 - 05/19/05 09:48 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

does anyone have any knowledge about using a heating pad under their rubbermaid-type chamber with perlite to warm the water and help keep the humidity to the max?


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Re: heating pad under fruiting chamber [Re: extinguishment]
    #4197242 - 05/19/05 09:57 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I am interested to hear the reply on this one...because my main fruiting chambers are taken up right now and that was what I was thinking of doing as well.


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Re: heating pad under fruiting chamber [Re: oysterguy63]
    #4197279 - 05/19/05 10:05 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Funny this was braught up,
AFOAF as of yesterday put a heating pad under his chamber becauase the humidity was slightly on the low side. I've been hearing mixed opinions on this but I can tell you that since he did it's a mini rainforest in there now. There is a couple things to remember: Keep the pad on the lowest setting and make sure thier is about a 1/2 inch of water in the bottom. This will keep a constant supply of moisture to keep circulaing. You also have to make sure that your lid is absolutely tight. And last but not least keep the gas exchange going.


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Re: heating pad under fruiting chamber [Re: Aiko Aiko]
    #4197290 - 05/19/05 10:07 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Will having a fish tank heater in some water between two stacked rubbermaids going to have the same positive effects as having a heating pad underneath a rubbermaid?

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Re: heating pad under fruiting chamber [Re: Aiko Aiko]
    #4197299 - 05/19/05 10:10 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Funny this was braught up,
AFOAF as of yesterday put a heating pad under his chamber becauase the humidity was slightly on the low side. I've been hearing mixed opinions on this but I can tell you that since he did it's a mini rainforest in there now. There is a couple things to remember: Keep the pad on the lowest setting and make sure thier is about a 1/2 inch of water in the bottom. This will keep a constant supply of moisture to keep circulaing. You also have to make sure that your lid is absolutely tight. And last but not least keep the gas exchange going.




a few questions....How does a heating pad help with humidity? and, why does the lid need to be tight if gas exchange is so key? wouldnt a slightly loose lid promote gas exchange? Thanks


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Re: heating pad under fruiting chamber [Re: extinguishment]
    #4197304 - 05/19/05 10:10 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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my friend used a small 50 watt heating pad under his rubbermaid with perlite, and had the room at 72-75. a halfhour after putting the heater on high, all the sides were fogged. he didnt use the high setting anymore, but used low, and alternated it on and off during the day when the lights were on, and off during the night.


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Re: heating pad under fruiting chamber [Re: fireworks_god]
    #4197315 - 05/19/05 10:13 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

It may help but I think having the pad in direct contact helps with the evaporation into the chamber, since heat rises of course.


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Re: heating pad under fruiting chamber [Re: Aiko Aiko]
    #4197330 - 05/19/05 10:16 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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It may help but I think having the pad in direct contact helps with the evaporation into the chamber, since heat rises of course.




All right. Dude already has a fish tank heater and the two stacked rubbermaids, so he'll stick with that for now... if he sets that at a good temperature, and uses perlite, he should be able to maintain a decent enough humidity?

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Re: heating pad under fruiting chamber [Re: Aiko Aiko]
    #4197333 - 05/19/05 10:17 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

urm.. fruiting chambers arent supposed to be heated i thought??

just stick some airstones in the bottom of the wet perlite/geolite and you have plenty of humidity AND air exchange ala Poor Man's Pod


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Re: heating pad under fruiting chamber [Re: stevenkoozer]
    #4197359 - 05/19/05 10:20 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

As for the pad, heat causes water to evaporate quicker. Therefore putting moisture into the chamber. And the lid needs to be tight to retain that moisture. If you are fanning for gas exchange, you are only removing the lid briefly 2-3 times a day. If the lid is left slightly cracked, there is a constant escape of moisture. Very bad!  :jamming:


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Re: heating pad under fruiting chamber [Re: Mych]
    #4197363 - 05/19/05 10:21 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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urm.. fruiting chambers arent supposed to be heated i thought??





Isn't it necessary to maintain a certain temperature? I'm not turning my house's heater up to 80 degrees... :grin:

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Re: heating pad under fruiting chamber [Re: Aiko Aiko]
    #4197373 - 05/19/05 10:22 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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As for the pad, heat causes water to evaporate quicker. Therefore putting moisture into the chamber. And the lid needs to be tight to retain that moisture. If you are fanning for gas exchange, you are only removing the lid briefly 2-3 times a day. If the lid is left slightly cracked, there is a constant escape of moisture. Very bad!  :jamming:




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Re: heating pad under fruiting chamber [Re: Aiko Aiko]
    #4197380 - 05/19/05 10:24 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

By the way were only talking about a rise of couple of degrees. I'm not saying crank the pad up to full blast or anything.


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Re: heating pad under fruiting chamber [Re: Aiko Aiko]
    #4197406 - 05/19/05 10:30 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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If you are fanning for gas exchange, you are only removing the lid briefly 2-3 times a day.




So basically just open the lid for a minute or two and take something and stir up the air? A couple of times a day? Is there any reason, then, to construct a system to provide for constant air exchange? My friend is really concerned about keeping all conditions optimal, but doesn't want to set up any complex stuff if it isn't necessary...

Perhaps, after one fans out the air and closes the chamber back up, should one turn up the heat a bit to bring it back to full humidity quicker?

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Re: heating pad under fruiting chamber [Re: fireworks_god]
    #4197760 - 05/20/05 12:38 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i am going to try this... i just got an awesome fruiting chamber from target. it's a portable greenhouse, and i am using a fish tank heater on it, but i am looking into going with a heating pad. This new terrarium i bought, holds 6-8 22" casing trays... and boy do they look beautiful!!


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Re: heating pad under fruiting chamber [Re: Oatman2000]
    #4197823 - 05/20/05 01:09 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Incubation = Humidity's in jars...None needed in rubbermaid...Gas excahnge is only needed in terms of tyvek and filter patches...
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Re: heating pad under fruiting chamber [Re: extinguishment]
    #4197861 - 05/20/05 02:07 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I use heating pads for all of my stuff.. I think it really helps to have a fan inside the chamber to keep the temps more even. Also, I raised all the jars off the bottom with an inch or so of styrofoam because the bottoms of the jars were getting like 5 degrees hotter than everything else.

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Re: heating pad under fruiting chamber [Re: Quiescence]
    #4200490 - 05/20/05 06:10 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

it seems to be keeping it in a rainforest condition, but it elevates the temp from 73 up to 78-79. it is being used on a day-night cycle, where the pad is only on during the day (with 8-12 hours of ambient lighting) and turned off during the night to which the temp is dropped to 73-71 in the morning. i reason that this temp fluctucation with the light cycle isnt harmful at all, or may be beneficial because it simulates a natural outdoor setting more than 1 static temperature.


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Re: heating pad under fruiting chamber [Re: extinguishment]
    #4203181 - 05/21/05 01:42 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

A FOAF has a rubbermaid clear plastic fruiting chamber on the top rack of a 4 shelf shoe rack. A piece of metal wire shelving (available @ Lowe's) was rigged to hang about 2" below this rack - this holds the heating pad. This keeps the container from resting directly on the heating pad. The heating pad needs to be the type that does NOT cut off automatically after 2 hrs. as many of the newer ones do. There is a thermometer/hygrometer inside the fruiting chamber & the temp. is kept between 75 & 85 & the humidity stays around 90%. The lid is lying on top of the container but not snapped shut. The unit receives 6 hrs. flourescent light per day, misting is daily & fanning 3 x day. So far, this FOAF has had good results with this setup.


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