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OfflineAiko Aiko
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PC Question
    #4197157 - 05/19/05 09:35 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I'm sorry if this may be a stupid question, but why must you use a PC for everything other than PF cakes? i.e WBS. I'm only asking becouse my  buddy is really considering a WBS tek for the batch but can not afford a PC, at least not right now. :crazy:


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Re: PC Question [Re: Aiko Aiko]
    #4197165 - 05/19/05 09:37 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

If im Correct!

Grains have EndoSpore's that are Bad! Boiling Wont kill them Alone
Soak 24 Hr then PC them bastards!

BRF isnt as bas as WBS/RYE but also does not do as good!

BRF-Boil
Grains=MUST PC!

Check out a Value Village or Local Thrift Shop

Got me a 3.5 Quart for 5 bucks!
Holds 6 1/2 Pint's!


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Re: PC Question [Re: Aiko Aiko]
    #4197172 - 05/19/05 09:39 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

because grains can contain endospores (bacteria) that will not be killed off by simply boiling, i imagine that is how you are doing your pf's.


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Re: PC Question [Re: backupwards]
    #4197189 - 05/19/05 09:43 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Don't be deceived.
I don't know about all grains, but I've had great success with rye by boiling it 3 times and letting it incubate in between the boilings (for a day).

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Re: PC Question [Re: Tien]
    #4197211 - 05/19/05 09:49 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

idiots, why does everyone say that grain has indospores but doesnt say that brf has them. Brown rice is a grain. It has endospores, but since its growund down to a powder and the verm losens it up so that the steam can penetrate it and kill everything. This is why you cook cakes for an hour whereas you only cook them for 20 mins in a pc. I suppose you could cook grain for 5 hours if you took it out every hour and shook it up so that you got good penetration with the steam but i would much rather drive to the store and kick down $150 for an all amercian and never worry about it again.


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Re: PC Question [Re: Tien]
    #4197212 - 05/19/05 09:49 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Plutonium said:
Don't be deceived.
I don't know about all grains, but I've had great success with rye by boiling it 3 times and letting it incubate in between the boilings (for a day).





But how much more Effort is their involved????

Dont mess around with Boiling the shit at all!!

Just find a PC!!
IF you cant stick with BRF for SIMPLEMETHODS!


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Re: PC Question [Re: tahoe]
    #4197225 - 05/19/05 09:51 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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tahoe said:
idiots, why does everyone say that grain has indospores but doesnt say that brf has them. Brown rice is a grain. It has endospores, but since its growund down to a powder and the verm losens it up so that the steam can penetrate it and kill everything. This is why you cook cakes for an hour whereas you only cook them for 20 mins in a pc. I suppose you could cook grain for 5 hours if you took it out every hour and shook it up so that you got good penetration with the steam but i would much rather drive to the store and kick down $150 for an all amercian and never worry about it again.




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Re: PC Question [Re: SouthPArk]
    #4197241 - 05/19/05 09:57 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

$5 for a PC? I'll definitely tell him to check the thrift store down the road. Thanx for all the info. Peace!


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Re: PC Question [Re: tahoe]
    #4197243 - 05/19/05 09:57 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

so true tahoe, they are much easier to get rid of with the verm. that it is really a none issue, at least for me.


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Re: PC Question [Re: Aiko Aiko]
    #4197313 - 05/19/05 10:12 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

i had the same Q. when i was a newb w/out a pc;

Try this


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Re: PC Question [Re: deanofmean]
    #4197436 - 05/19/05 10:39 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I'll lead him in that direction for sure! Thanx again.


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Re: PC Question [Re: Aiko Aiko]
    #4197715 - 05/20/05 12:20 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

My advice - Look around your local goodwill stores. I found a big PC for fifty dollars, took the pressure weight off and put it in my pocket and then slapped a 5 dollar sticker on it. Voila! of course it's not likely that you have the same luck but it's a good idea to check it out.


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