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OfflinePapa_Smurff
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WBS vs BRF
    #4193289 - 05/19/05 12:40 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I just want to know what are the differences, pros and cons of the Wild Birdseed tek and the Brown Rice Flower tek. I'm planing on spawning these into horse poop so what would be the best and what are the pros and cons?


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Re: WBS vs BRF [Re: Papa_Smurff]
    #4193312 - 05/19/05 12:44 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

From what I have learned, WBS has more nutrients, for one. Another advantage is that it is cheaper than buying verm and BRF.


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Re: WBS vs BRF [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #4193320 - 05/19/05 12:45 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

PF Tek = no pressure cooker
WBS = better in every way IMO.


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Re: WBS vs BRF [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #4193329 - 05/19/05 12:47 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

WBS can be broken up easier so it has a better advantage to spawning. WBS will colonize faster then BRF. cheaper.


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Re: WBS vs BRF [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4193350 - 05/19/05 12:50 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Pf tek = Less time consuming
Any grain = Need time to prep (soaking ect)...

Grains arent really that hard at all...just a bit more work i guess...

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Re: WBS vs BRF [Re: GNIOM1498]
    #4193365 - 05/19/05 12:53 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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WBS can be broken up easier so it has a better advantage to spawning.  WBS will colonize faster then BRF.  cheaper.




Not unless you have a grinder...forget what they're called exactly, but RK said he uses one....pulse is what he uses....it grinds it up nicely but not into puddy :thumbup:

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Re: WBS vs BRF [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4193372 - 05/19/05 12:54 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

A grinder isnt needed to break up colonized WBS...you just shake it.

And no measuring things or filling up tons of little jars. 20 quarts only takes me 30-40 minutes to make..you just dump some in a pot te night before and fill it with water, then throw the pot on the stove and simmer for 10 minutes, then strain for 10-20 and load into jars with a tyvek filter on top..another 10 minutes.


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How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: WBS vs BRF [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4193386 - 05/19/05 12:58 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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A grinder isnt needed to break up colonized WBS...you just shake it.




I always wondered about that. BRF cakes are always pretty compact.


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Re: WBS vs BRF [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4193387 - 05/19/05 12:58 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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IGnosticAbhorI said:
Pf tek = Less time consuming
Any grain = Need time to prep (soaking ect)...




you don't have to mix up brf and verm and load that sticky mess into jars and then add dry verm....ahh, pf tek sucks.

w/ wbs you have to pre-soak, but that can be done the night before you are planning to pc. you should simmer for about 20 minutes on the stove and then strain and load...to me its WAY less work than the fuckin pf tek!

newbies should really start w/ wbs if they can find a pressure cooker (VERY CHEAP at wallyworld). you can still make wbs cakes and they will be more potent than pf tek too.


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Re: WBS vs BRF [Re: Papa_Smurff]
    #4193486 - 05/19/05 01:17 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Is the WBS tek the best when spawning into horse poo?


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Re: WBS vs BRF [Re: Papa_Smurff]
    #4193525 - 05/19/05 01:25 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Hmm...Good point Today...:thumbup:

Wbs has turned green-ed on me a lot...Rye..:thumbup:...I'd do more, just kinda lazy i guess...Brf i always have...rye...not so much

And you don;t "need" a grinder...I meant that it shreads it up into tiny pieces, better for spawning, makes it about as small as grains...

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Re: WBS vs BRF [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4193587 - 05/19/05 01:42 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

your wbs gets green monstered? that's too bad, i'm a believer in wbs now and will stick w/ it forever.


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Re: WBS vs BRF [Re: TODAY]
    #4193626 - 05/19/05 01:54 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Im sure this is a really stupid question but what is green monstered?  Contaminated Im guessing.... I hate being a noob... :frown:


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Re: WBS vs BRF [Re: Papa_Smurff]
    #4193634 - 05/19/05 01:58 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

lol, no problem.  any time you hear about an attack of the GREEN or something derrivative like that we're talking about a common contaminate...green mold, simple as that :sun:


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Re: WBS vs BRF [Re: TODAY]
    #4194280 - 05/19/05 08:05 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Haha i'm calling it Green Monstered from now on too

Also, I want to say that PFTEK is ha.rder to do for n00bz than WBS... That PFTEK is best for noobs is the one of the biggest myths around. 1) It's expensive, making the mixture is tedius, then adding the dry verm.. etc etc etc... you don't have to deal with this crap with WBS, and WBS is way cheaper (especially if you buy 40 lbs bags at a time)... the grains are cuter, you can shake the jars to spread small amounts of growing mycellium which will greatly increase the colonization....

There just isn't any contest... PF TEK fucking sucks and noobz shouldn't even bother with it. It's a fucking headache. Too much shit can go wrong.


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Re: WBS vs BRF [Re: spank0r]
    #4194793 - 05/19/05 11:58 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

totally agreed :smile: :thumbup:


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Re: WBS vs BRF [Re: GNIOM1498]
    #4194801 - 05/19/05 12:00 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

GNIOM1498 said:

WBS can be broken up easier so it has a better advantage to spawning.  WBS will colonize faster then BRF.  cheaper.




Very true!~

but some people have trouble with WBS.
you can grind up BRF/Verm cakes and spawn them into horse poo.
and it will work just as well as using WBS.

I personally use Rye grain for spawn.
Sometimes I use pure millet...when its available.

Basically...use what you feel most comfortable with.
Spawn is Spawn...it will all colonize the horse poo!~

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Re: WBS vs BRF [Re: Roadkill]
    #4194882 - 05/19/05 12:24 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

how about whole brown rice vs. WBS? any difference?


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Re: WBS vs BRF [Re: Abermelin]
    #4197863 - 05/20/05 02:08 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

You guys are a big help. Thanks


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Re: WBS vs BRF [Re: Papa_Smurff]
    #4198447 - 05/20/05 08:06 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Its been mentioned a few times that WBS doesn't compact as much as brf/verm and that it can be shaken up..

If, for now, one was only sticking with fruiting off of the cakes straight out of the jars, no casing or anything like that, would WBS be suitable for this, or does it only work for casings and etc.? If it is really loose, I can imagine that it would just crumble everywhere... :grin:

Also, I'm assuming that WBS is all that you would use for the substrate? :laugh:

This thread makes my friend wish he didn't go out and buy a huge fucking bag of vermiculite yesterday and some brown rice and a blender a few weeks ago... :lol:

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