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OfflineTwiztid
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Is it possible........?
    #4192761 - 05/18/05 09:56 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

To have a mind expanding trip without the hallucinations that accure or is it the visuals that make your mind expand? I'm curious to read the answer to this.


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Re: Is it possible........? [Re: Twiztid]
    #4192766 - 05/18/05 09:57 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Ive had trips with a surprising lack of what people consider "visuals" and come out with very profound changes in my thought and behavior.

visuals are nice, but not necessary.


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Re: Is it possible........? [Re: mathflower]
    #4192997 - 05/18/05 11:22 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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visuals are nice, but not necessary.




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Re: Is it possible........? [Re: BanJankri]
    #4193653 - 05/19/05 02:03 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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mathflower said:

visuals are nice, but not necessary.







Definitely true.

I remember being disappointed when I smoked pot and didn't see pink elephants and kolidescopic colours, but once I tried some better pot visuals were the last thing on my mind. :grin:

Visuals are nothing but eye candy. Focusing on them seems to diminish them actually. Just let go and if you get visuals, then you get visuals. If not then it's really no big deal.


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Re: Is it possible........? [Re: Twiztid]
    #4194164 - 05/19/05 05:46 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Twiztid said:
To have a mind expanding trip without the hallucinations that accure or is it the visuals that make your mind expand? I'm curious to read the answer to this.




Your perception of the world around you changes. The way sensory input is processed in the brain is different. It changes the way you experience reality; it changes the way you think, etc, etc. Many processes in the brain are different. The visuals are caused by this, the 'mind expanding' is also caused by this. So it's not the visuals that make your mind expand. Does that make sense?


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Re: Is it possible........? [Re: Annom]
    #4194204 - 05/19/05 06:26 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I agree with everyone else on this. Beginners often think that people use mushrooms to get hallucinations and see pretty colors, but what it's really about is this incredible change in perception.

I think Annom hit the nail on the head.


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