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Monogamy & Polygamy
    #4191112 - 05/18/05 03:36 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Recently I've found myself involved in a universally consenting bigamous relationship with two women. What are the moral ramifications of this? Previously I'd not have thought it possible to be in a loving relationship with more than one woman. But, much to my own surprise, I can say that my feelings for either woman are genuine and healthy, and are not based on sexual attraction alone, or on the obviously egoistic connotations of having two girlfriends. It does not seem as though my affection for one woman undermines that had for the other.

I am being naive? Is this too good to be true? Does anyone else have experience with this? Is there a contradiction between this choice of lifestyle and my choice of religion? Why is monogamy the culturally sanctioned standard? Why has our culture rejected polygamy? Feedback please!


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Re: Monogamy & Polygamy [Re: Ped]
    #4191160 - 05/18/05 03:49 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Different strokes for different folks. I think its ludicrous to say it's only possible to love one person.


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Re: Monogamy & Polygamy [Re: Ped]
    #4191218 - 05/18/05 04:03 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

This sounds very healthy to me. You seem to live by high standards of ethical behavior, why would your religion interfere with that?

Good question about why monogamy is the sanctioned standard. I guess it has something to do with the government sanctioned religion of our culture. 

Why too good to be true? :wink: You deserve all the happiness life has to offer. :heart: You have it because you can handle it. :thumbup:

It's good to see you posting again.  :mushroom2:


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Re: Monogamy & Polygamy [Re: Icelander]
    #4191422 - 05/18/05 04:45 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

it may be that the majority of people are not capable of being in love with more than one person at the same time.  Actually, i just realise how little sense that makes - do you not love your family? your close friends? perhaps *this* is the next stumbling block for humans.
It doesn't have to be a case of "shag everyone and everyone shag you" (to put it crudely).  As in, maybe the "swinging sixties" had the right idea, but went about it the wrong way...all that is needed is realisation that you can love more than one person.  And of course, love doesn't have to lead to a full-on sexual relationship - after all, i doubt many (if any) of us here regularly have sex with family members  :grin:


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Re: Monogamy & Polygamy [Re: Ped]
    #4191425 - 05/18/05 04:47 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

"Does anyone else have experience with this?"

I wish! I always wanted a three way. Or do you keep your intimacy behind closed doors?

How do you decide whose "night" it is?


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Re: Monogamy & Polygamy [Re: Ped]
    #4191429 - 05/18/05 04:48 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

It's purely cultural. Other cultures, such as the Arabian culture, have long embraced polygamy for men, just like in the situation you're in now except they'd be two wives instead of two girlfriends. It's entirely possible to love more than one person at once, I'd even venture to say it's natural.

As a sidenote, do they know that they've involved in a polygamous relationship, or is that simply your knowledge?


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Re: Monogamy & Polygamy [Re: newjon]
    #4191432 - 05/18/05 04:48 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Carefull what you bring up around here! :grin:


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Re: Monogamy & Polygamy [Re: Ped]
    #4191442 - 05/18/05 04:51 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

oops duplicated  :smirk:


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info at church of all worlds: [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #4192386 - 05/18/05 08:16 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: info at church of all worlds: [Re: gnrm23]
    #4192406 - 05/18/05 08:23 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

CAW seems interesting, "the children of gaia"


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Re: info at church of all worlds: [Re: Ped]
    #4192449 - 05/18/05 08:37 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

If you are and have communicated with all persons concerned, what can possibly be wrong with it?

Territorial feelings are what inspired monogamy in my opinion. Most people can't handle their S.O.('s) not "belonging" to only them.

If you and your partners can, why not?


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Re: Monogamy & Polygamy [Re: Ped]
    #4192478 - 05/18/05 08:46 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Ped said:
Recently I've found myself involved in a universally consenting bigamous relationship with two women. What are the moral ramifications of this? Previously I'd not have thought it possible to be in a loving relationship with more than one woman. But, much to my own surprise, I can say that my feelings for either woman are genuine and healthy, and are not based on sexual attraction alone, or on the obviously egoistic connotations of having two girlfriends. It does not seem as though my affection for one woman undermines that had for the other.

I am being naive? Is this too good to be true? Does anyone else have experience with this? Is there a contradiction between this choice of lifestyle and my choice of religion? Why is monogamy the culturally sanctioned standard? Why has our culture rejected polygamy? Feedback please!




It is perfectly moral in case both of them know about the other one and your love for each of them.

Even an opressive religion like Judaism alows it, even encouraged the old people to have many as wives as they wanted.

Polygamy is natural since it alows you to love and have sex with multiple wimen and add as many of them into your "harem" as you wish, providing you are ready to love them and treat each of them as if she is the only one. Adding wives just for fun and then forgetting them after a month or two and finding some more would be irresponsible I think.

You can all be one happy family.

Polygamy and Monogamy are just different flavours of sexual love and is suited depending on personality.

Some like warmth, fun and excitement of polygamy, some might prefer a more romantic "you and me" setting of monogamy.

To everyone accoarding to their preferences


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Re: info at church of all worlds: [Re: Alan Stone]
    #4192488 - 05/18/05 08:47 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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If you are and have communicated with all persons concerned, what can possibly be wrong with it?

Territorial feelings are what inspired monogamy in my opinion. Most people can't handle their S.O.('s) not "belonging" to only them.

If you and your partners can, why not?





Why is it that people always accept one thing and in the process reject the other? Why not accept all?


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Re: info at church of all worlds: [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4192503 - 05/18/05 08:52 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Come again? :confused:


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Re: info at church of all worlds: [Re: Alan Stone]
    #4192518 - 05/18/05 08:56 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

In my eyes you are somehow against monogamy as it is built on weakness


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Re: info at church of all worlds: [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4192542 - 05/18/05 09:01 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

That's not what I said. I only said what the motivation was. Most people cannot handle three days of castigation. Does that make those that can better?


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Re: Monogamy & Polygamy [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4192550 - 05/18/05 09:03 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Hey does every one feel the same about two men with one woman? :mushroom2:


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Re: Monogamy & Polygamy [Re: Icelander]
    #4192575 - 05/18/05 09:09 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

As long as all three (or more, if desired) agree on what the deal is, why not? The same goes if the relationship is made up of only two people.


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Re: Monogamy & Polygamy [Re: Ped]
    #4193855 - 05/19/05 03:00 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I can say that my feelings for either woman are genuine and healthy, and are not based on sexual attraction alone, or on the obviously egoistic connotations of having two girlfriends.

how can you confirm that to yourself?


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Re: Monogamy & Polygamy [Re: Ped]
    #4193882 - 05/19/05 03:11 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Are you being naive?
-Nah, best of luck to you, hope it works.


Is this too good to be true?
-Is it? It could always get better.



Is there a contradiction between this choice of lifestyle and my choice of religion?
-What's your choice of religion? I live the religion called "life" so... anything goes provided I'm satisfied with it. I was raised, and born into it, it's the biggest religion I know of, and one truly worth believing in.


Why is monogamy the culturally sanctioned standard? Why has our culture rejected polygamy?
-Glad you're happy with 2, I'd rather be happy with 1.

Popular culture prolly has rejected polygamy as it places less emphasis on a relationship by virtue of it spreading the sexual-social order around. Don't forget about what Jebus said, and more prominent ideologies that influence culture in its entirety.


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