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InvisibleGijith
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Politics and Child Rearing
    #4188400 - 05/17/05 09:05 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Just finished out a very long semester. A nice relaxed thread to fit my mood:

What are your views on educating children in the ways of politics? This is not the education they receive at school, and not the education they receive from their friends or dangerous internet message boards. I'm strictly talking about parents teaching their children about politics. Do you feel there is necessarily a right or wrong way to approach the subject? Should an attempt be made to be objective? Or should a parent deliver their honest opinion with its biases full blown? If you had a child that began to deviate far from your own beliefs, would you try to do something about it, or leave them be? I'm sure most of you will rightly say that most of these things depend on the age of the child. I guess assume early adolescence. Or not. Whatever you like.

Also, share any interesting political bits from your own upbringing.

This came to me as I was reading zappa's comments about his daughter. For all I know, he's the only regular PAL parent. But I'm sure there are others. If you're like me and are deathly scared of having kids and want to be fixed as soon as possible, cheers...


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InvisibleSilversoul
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Registered: 01/01/05
Posts: 23,576
Loc: The Barricades
Re: Politics and Child Rearing [Re: Gijith]
    #4188420 - 05/17/05 09:09 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I figure your views are probably going to rub off on your children anyway. The best way to do it is to present them as just that: your views, not objective fact. I also think it's nice to introduce alternative views to them. If their views start to shift away from yours, I think you should be accepting, but a little friendly debate wouldn't hurt. That's what me and my dad have been doing ever since my shift towards libertarianism.


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OfflineCatalysis
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Registered: 04/23/02
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Re: Politics and Child Rearing [Re: Silversoul]
    #4188475 - 05/17/05 09:21 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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I figure your views are probably going to rub off on your children anyway.




Would you have guessed that my parents are self-proclaimed socialists who wear "Vote Bush" t-shirts with a swastika on them?

I see your point though because whenever im in a debate with my family, my sister will turn to my mom and say "thats what we believe in, right mom?".  I shit you not, those are her exact words and she is 21 years old.

Im not sure what to think of this topic.  I think the most important thing a parent can teach their child is simply don't be an asshole (i.e. listen to people and learn from everyone, don't push your "values" on anyone else)...but "don't be an asshole" just encompasses so much more, its like the ultimate truth.  :tongue:


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Offlinezappaisgod
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Re: Politics and Child Rearing [Re: Gijith]
    #4188523 - 05/17/05 09:30 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Given the fact that there is a profound socialist bias in the schools where I live I present to her a conservative economic view.  I also try to make her realize that she is mostly responsible for what happens to her.  If I lived in a creationist state I would be telling her different stuff but I don't have to deal with that stupidity.  She believes in god.  I am a militant atheist.  Believe me we discuss this.  Mostly I just guide.  Sometimes I'm sneaky :cool:  She is only 15 after all.  I've got 30+ years on her and I can be a cagey bastard when I want.  I do it because I think it's the right way to live in this world and your best shot at happiness.  I don't think anything can be solved by ignoring it and I think that's what a lot of young people do.  All they have known in their lives is other people taking care of business.  Sometimes what you have to do is unpleasant.  You still have to do it.  You all can disagree all you want and I enjoy the debate.  I enjoy the debate with her. I am much more gentle with her than I am with you all but you're allegedly adults.  She really is scary smart and it is dead cool to watch her.


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InvisibleSoopaX
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Registered: 11/13/04
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Re: Politics and Child Rearing [Re: Gijith]
    #4188532 - 05/17/05 09:31 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

My parents taught me that I shouldn't do things that impinged upon the rights of others, thats basicaly my whole philosophy and perspective on politics. Minimal involvement in the lives of others.


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Offlinezappaisgod
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Re: Politics and Child Rearing [Re: Catalysis]
    #4188547 - 05/17/05 09:34 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Catalysis said:


I see your point though because whenever im in a debate with my family, my sister will turn to my mom and say "thats what we believe in, right mom?".  I shit you not, those are her exact words and she is 21 years old.




That is sad.  Believe when I tell you my petunia has no problem telling me I'm stupid.  Not that the little fucking bitch is right of course. :grin:


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