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eating mycelium from liquid culture
    #4186897 - 05/17/05 03:47 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

THIS 1976 adam gottlieb booklet explains a very fast and easy way to obtain psylocybin, put in simple words you start a cubensis culture in petri, then you make a liquid culture, take out the mycelium ball and dry it in the oven, then you extract active compounds with ethanhol, dry again and eat what remains.
my question: why extracting? can't you just eat the dry mycelium as it comes out of the liquid culture? can't you just make many honey or karo tek jars, then take out the white ball, dry it and eat it?
according to gottlieb, 2 grams of dried mycelium from a liquid culture contain about one dose (10mg) of psilocybin, so why extracting further?


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Re: eating mycelium from liquid culture [Re: lepiota]
    #4186925 - 05/17/05 03:52 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

:shake:I have never understood mycelium eating fruits are just much cooler :grin:


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Re: eating mycelium from liquid culture [Re: lepiota]
    #4186969 - 05/17/05 04:02 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I would imagine that "taking the mycelium ball out of the karo" would be a task in itself- picture the sticky goey mess that would dry in a clump of materials. Oven drying it would likely reduce potency or speed up the oxidation of the chemicals within. Why bother drying it? Wait until there is a nice big ball of myc in there, open it up, and spoon it down. IF that worked, it'd make life much easier for the home cultivator. You could just open up a jar, mix it with your favorite drink, and go to town.


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Re: eating mycelium from liquid culture [Re: Drink_Punk_Soda]
    #4187007 - 05/17/05 04:11 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

of course you don't take out the mycelium ball, you filter the water out from it with a filtered funnel.

i'm much more interested in seeing mushrooms grow than taking psilocybin, and i'll probably move to edibles soon, but there are more than a few teks out there about psilocybin extraction from mycelium (avoiding the fructification process), this seemed to me the easiest, just asking you if it would work.


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Re: eating mycelium from liquid culture [Re: lepiota]
    #4187021 - 05/17/05 04:14 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

never eaten raw mycelium myself but it works. True psilocen/psilocyben extraction is actualy a lot trickier work and involves more than just drying out mycelium


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Re: eating mycelium from liquid culture [Re: lowdominion]
    #4187066 - 05/17/05 04:25 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

yup gottlieb does it with methanhol and still says that what you get is only 25 - 50% active. i would probably opt for "dissolving" (= not extracting) mycelium in ethyl alcohol if i wanted a liquid thing, or eat the dry myc if i want a powder. wouldn't mess with methanhol though, which is deadly if misused.


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Re: eating mycelium from liquid culture [Re: lepiota]
    #4187137 - 05/17/05 04:39 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Here's a question, since I've never done a liquid tek. What is the consistancy of the mycelium ball? Is it very fragile, or fairly thick?


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Re: eating mycelium from liquid culture [Re: lepiota]
    #4187432 - 05/17/05 05:37 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

i would just tap a vein with it  :syringe: :drooling: :dead:


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Re: eating mycelium from liquid culture [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #4187448 - 05/17/05 05:41 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

:lol: :lol:


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Re: eating mycelium from liquid culture [Re: lowdominion]
    #4187462 - 05/17/05 05:46 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Exactly eating mycelium is like the anxious junkie who cant wait for his shot.. :thumbdown:


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Re: eating mycelium from liquid culture [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #4187475 - 05/17/05 05:49 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Glitershitz!!!!!


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Re: eating mycelium from liquid culture [Re: Dexter_Morgan]
    #4188230 - 05/17/05 08:20 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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I believe glitershitz comes from eating cakes made from the PF Tek, which you know consist of vermiculite, shiny rocks!

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Re: eating mycelium from liquid culture [Re: o0brandnewcolony]
    #4188797 - 05/17/05 10:52 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Finish what you started... you will garner much more pleasure from your toils that way.

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Re: eating mycelium from liquid culture [Re: kimikiri]
    #4188816 - 05/17/05 10:57 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

is the myc more active or less then fruits?


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Re: eating mycelium from liquid culture [Re: Retired]
    #4189082 - 05/17/05 11:46 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

less way less.


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Re: eating mycelium from liquid culture [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #4189604 - 05/18/05 03:11 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

of course growing shrooms is much more satisfying, i'm just elaborating an easy tek for curiosity. anyway, do you think that 2 grams of dry mycelium from a liquid culture would suffice for a good "dose"? has anybody ever tried these teks?


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Re: eating mycelium from liquid culture [Re: lepiota]
    #4189654 - 05/18/05 03:32 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I bet you ate snot as a kid!~

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sorry...I couldn't resist.

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Re: eating mycelium from liquid culture [Re: Roadkill]
    #4189685 - 05/18/05 03:50 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

o0brandnewcolony are those Thai koh Samui? Sorry to post off topic, but nice shroom pics get me soo hot..


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Re: eating mycelium from liquid culture [Re: Roadkill]
    #4190106 - 05/18/05 09:12 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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I bet you ate snot as a kid!~




infact i'm still eating snots!
(my own only, don't send me yours plz)  :laugh:


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Re: eating mycelium from liquid culture [Re: lepiota]
    #4190207 - 05/18/05 10:16 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

lepiota if you actually try it i'd like to know how well it worked for you, it would be interesting to be able to just make mass amounts of liquid culture and just chug that.


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Re: eating mycelium from liquid culture [Re: waixingren]
    #4190211 - 05/18/05 10:18 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

yes i would like to know how it works too. from what i have read the myc is just as strong but people here seem to think otherwise. so let us know what happens.


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Re: eating mycelium from liquid culture [Re: Retired]
    #4190219 - 05/18/05 10:21 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

well hell, i'll give it a shot, im gonna put together some wbs jars tomorrow, so if all goes well i'll extract the myc with some cranberry juice and take it down.


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Re: eating mycelium from liquid culture [Re: waixingren]
    #4190561 - 05/18/05 12:56 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

i'm not sure whether i'll do it soon or not, but i'll write down the tek if i'll have good results with it.
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Re: eating mycelium from liquid culture [Re: Drink_Punk_Soda]
    #4226836 - 05/27/05 03:48 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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I would imagine that "taking the mycelium ball out of the karo" would be a task in itself- picture the sticky goey mess that would dry in a clump of materials. Oven drying it would likely reduce potency or speed up the oxidation of the chemicals within. Why bother drying it? Wait until there is a nice big ball of myc in there, open it up, and spoon it down. IF that worked, it'd make life much easier for the home cultivator. You could just open up a jar, mix it with your favorite drink, and go to town.




First off all u have to do is strain teh liquid... (use what u strain to start a new jar it works) and get whats left the actual mycellium and dip them in melted cholcate that way no oxygen touches the alkaloids and by the way as long as they don't get hotter that 220 degrees its loses no potency


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Re: eating mycelium from liquid culture [Re: haysanatar]
    #4226885 - 05/27/05 04:00 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Have you ever tried filtering Karo water through a coffee filter? No? It doesn't work well. Second, you'd need considerably more mycelium mass to trip than dry fruitbodies.

I'm tempted to conduct my own experiment, doing a quart jar of karo water and letting the mass grow quite large, and then ingesting the entire thing. If that works at all, I'll let you all know. But don't expect results for a while.


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Re: eating mycelium from liquid culture [Re: Drink_Punk_Soda]
    #4227509 - 05/27/05 07:40 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

God damn, all thats more work then growing mushrooms. Why not just start a culture on a petri, put the petri into a dozen jars (wedge in each) and just let the jars sit and incubate and fruit in the jar. No work or nothing needed to be done except that.


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Re: eating mycelium from liquid culture [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4228263 - 05/27/05 11:38 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

PCing a jar of karo water and innoculating it is more work than growing mushrooms?

First off, I can't do agar work, I don't have any kind of glovebox or clean room.
Second, I'm fully sold on the idea of growing out fruits, I'm just curious if it'd work.


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Re: eating mycelium from liquid culture [Re: Drink_Punk_Soda]
    #4246347 - 06/02/05 01:08 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

just out of curiousity .... anyone thought of using gateraide...mixed.. with... sumthin for a liquid culture I'm a big packpacker.. and a tad drunk right now and last time I went back packing I left some gateraid in an algene botle I came back latter taht week adn vwalla fungi just wondering if taht would work for shrooms.. after all its got elecrolyotes and I noticed that at wallmart they had an air pump and lets face it our liquid culutre babies arwen't getting the air they need what if I got a air thing and some how filtered teh air qwould taht increse the amount of growth.. or soemthing... well answer bnaack


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Re: eating mycelium from liquid culture [Re: haysanatar]
    #4246503 - 06/02/05 02:00 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe u should graduate high school.


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Re: eating mycelium from liquid culture [Re: JihadISfreind]
    #4246588 - 06/02/05 02:26 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

we ate azurescens mycelium wafers a few years back at burning man. it works, not worth your time with cubes


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Re: eating mycelium from liquid culture [Re: JihadISfreind]
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    #4247175 - 06/02/05 09:14 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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