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the friend, the glance
    #4185486 - 05/17/05 07:46 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

two things strike me and keep ringing true from Coleman Barks excellent transaltions of Rumi (the sufi poet)

one being "the friend" and the other being "the glance":

at times the friend seems to be symbolic for god, and at other times for the ecstatic state, yet at others for the 'sense of being more than one self', (as a product of ecstatic states, or immersion in the realm of god).

and the glance is always refreshing and surprising evoking the lightness of attention, the lightness of heart, and light altogether.

then, very uplifting, is sharing the glance with the friend

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Re: the friend, the glance [Re: redgreenvines]
    #4185528 - 05/17/05 08:50 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I tried to find writings that you mentioned and couldn't find them but I did find other writings translated. This Sumi guy was around in the 1200s but wrote as if he could have been from the present day. Thanks for sharing this.

Can you post the poems you are talking about?

The day will come when, after harnessing the ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire.  -Teilard

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    #4185684 - 05/17/05 10:30 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

all those are good.


Time's knife slides from the sheath,
as a fish from where it swims.

Being closer and closer is the desire
of the body. Don't wish for union!

There's a closeness beyond that. Why
would God want a second God? Fall in

love in such a way that it frees you
from any connecting. Love is the soul's

light, the taste of morning, no me, no
we, no claim of being. These words

are the smoke the fire gives off as it
absolves its defects, as eyes in silence,

tears, face. Love cannot be said.


Sometimes you hear a voice through
the door calling you, as fish out of

water hear the waves, or a hunting
falcon hears the drum's come back.

This turning toward what you deeply
love saves you. Children fill their

shirts with rocks and carry them
around. We're not children anymore.

Read the book of your life which has
been given you. A voice comes to

your soul saying, Lift your foot;
cross over; move into emptiness

of question and answer and question.

? Jalal al-Din Rumi (1207-1273)
The Glance: Songs of Soul-Meeting
translated by Coleman Barks
Viking Penguin, NY (1999)

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