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OfflineInjectTruth
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MikeOlogical Jars - success rate? Whats your experience?
    #4165602 - 05/12/05 08:07 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Hello everyone. After repeated attempts with mycobags that have left me angry, what does everyone think about the jars mike sells? I know they are expensive, but time and space are money. I have money, I dont have time and space, dig?

Any way, how many jars contam on average, out of 12? Im looking to cut down on prep time.


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Re: MikeOlogical Jars - success rate? Whats your experience? [Re: InjectTruth]
    #4165736 - 05/12/05 09:00 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Go with mike o if your mycobag is troubeling you. Mycobags take some getting use to.
Mike o  does everything for you.
:thumbup:
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Re: MikeOlogical Jars - success rate? Whats your experience? [Re: InjectTruth]
    #4165740 - 05/12/05 09:02 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I have never bought jars from him.

but...I will say this.

If someone knows how to make up jars...they won't have a noticible contam rate.

you will get more contams from syringes and bad procedures...than from jars of substrate.

give the guy a try!~

:smile:


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Re: MikeOlogical Jars - success rate? Whats your experience? [Re: Roadkill]
    #4165807 - 05/12/05 09:22 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

none of his jars will contam if you dont indroduce any contams the jars them selfs are 100% contam free bad knock up pratices are what cause contams same with mycobags


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OfflineMikeOLogical
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Re: MikeOlogical Jars - success rate? Whats your experience? [Re: InjectTruth]
    #4166297 - 05/12/05 12:39 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

InjectTruth said:
Any way, how many jars contam on average, out of 12? Im looking to cut down on prep time.




on average, if sterile procedure is followed, zero will contaminate.

our jars enjoy a contamination rate of less than one percent.


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We got Nothing!
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Re: MikeOlogical Jars - success rate? Whats your experience? [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #4169853 - 05/13/05 06:37 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Excellent.

I understand its either bad syringes or technique most of the time. But here's the deal.

i started a few years ago with the Shroom Wizards method, and had no problems. I did less sterile preparation than I do now, and I hardly got any contams. I even made my own syringes and everything, all without a flowhood or glovebox.

A little while later, I moved into a new spot, and with less time on my hands, decided to give the sponsors a try. Well a brand new syringe from TLG and all those mycobags later, and now all of a sudden I dont know what Im doing? Thats what made me think it was the syringe or the bag.

After the mycobag experience, I said fuck it, downloaded 6t WBS tek, and made my first batch of grain jars. Only 2 contamed.

Then I tried to make normal PF JARS again, and NOTHING! I dont know why I cant get a normal PF jar to work anymore but its DRIVING ME NUTS!

Why is it when I didnt even think about sterility, it wasnt a problem? Now I have gloves, alcohol sprays, a hepa filter, face mask, etc. etc. and I cant get any love. Im really looking for some consistency.


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the social structure as a whole.

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OfflineMikeOLogical
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Re: MikeOlogical Jars - success rate? Whats your experience? [Re: InjectTruth]
    #4172811 - 05/13/05 09:27 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

could be the spore load in your new place.

mold inside the walls can play hell with mushrooms no matter what you do.

best thing you can do is use a glovebox for everything and store your jars in a cardboard box fogged with lysol


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Re: MikeOlogical Jars - success rate? Whats your experience? [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #4173742 - 05/14/05 06:20 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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I moved into a new spot,




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could be the spore load in your new place.

mold inside the walls can play hell with mushrooms no matter what you do.

best thing you can do is use a glovebox for everything and store your jars in a cardboard box fogged with lysol




Minus the Cardboard box w/ lysol...Lysol causes mutes (from what i've noticed/read)...Get an incubator, they're not too $$ (like less than 35$)...Plus they give you optimal conditions :thumbup:

And i'd go with mike, i've heard he's :thumbup:

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Re: MikeOlogical Jars - success rate? Whats your experience? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4173983 - 05/14/05 09:08 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

any thing that has been pressure cooked will have 0 chance of contams untill inocculation time thats when people get lazy and screw up


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Re: MikeOlogical Jars - success rate? Whats your experience? [Re: Roadkill]
    #4180623 - 05/15/05 11:06 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Roadkill said:
If someone knows how to make up jars...they won't have a noticible contam rate.

you will get more contams from syringes and bad procedures...than from jars of substrate.





Roadkill is right on this.

Its very easy, and worth the small investment, for one to use a pressure cooker. I have read many reports that link "contams" to the syringes used. It's really easier, faster, and better to use a p.c.


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Re: MikeOlogical Jars - success rate? Whats your experience? [Re: Jammer]
    #4181225 - 05/16/05 03:28 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

nice to see you Jammer!~

ltns bro!~

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PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.



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Re: MikeOlogical Jars - success rate? Whats your experience? [Re: Roadkill]
    #4182328 - 05/16/05 01:14 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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Roadkill said:
nice to see you Jammer!~

ltns bro!~

:smile:




Thanks RoadKill!  :wink:

It's nice to be back sir. I have always been an avid forum reader and poster on various other special interest sites, and have been checking in here on the old gang from time to time. Due to some medical issues that have left me with a lot of spare time on my hands, I might be on the shroomery a lot more now.

I have been amazed at the coverazge on the main stream news  about what happened to Ripper a few years back. Just a couple weeks back I was watching CNN and seen where the aired pics from Ripper's web cam from the last chat of his...

There is a lot of old friends I fear have moved on from this site, as many dont seem to be here any more... (*sigh*)

But, it's always been a home to me here.  :smile:
btw: What does "ltns" stand for? (Im rather ignorant sometimes  :wink: )


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Re: MikeOlogical Jars - success rate? Whats your experience? [Re: Jammer]
    #4182441 - 05/16/05 01:47 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

ltns = long time no see


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