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OfflineScalade
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Big Yields
    #4182181 - 05/16/05 12:37 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I am looking to grow a big yield of shrooms, are there any ways more efficent then PF Tek for big yields?

I am looking at buying 18 syringes from SporeSource.com for $90 shipped and then get whatever else I need. Jars seem like they would be such a hassle @ this volume and very costly.

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Re: Big Yields [Re: Scalade]
    #4182194 - 05/16/05 12:40 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

many syringes will not yield you more mushrooms.
the pf tek is o.k. if you don't have a pressure cooker.
but it is what you do with the jars that really matters.
for big yields, try and spawn it to some horse poo.


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Re: Big Yields [Re: Scalade]
    #4182205 - 05/16/05 12:42 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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are there any ways more efficent then PF Tek for big yields?





many...

do some reading!~

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Re: Big Yields [Re: Roadkill]
    #4182216 - 05/16/05 12:47 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Do you own a pressure cooker? If so, try out wbs. See Agar's wbs tek. It's great and works fine. Then you can consider G2G transfers to extend your colonized spawn, from the multispore inoculation of a few jars. That's if you have a gloove box. It's the best and easiest way to start off IMO.

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Re: Big Yields [Re: Hotnuts]
    #4182241 - 05/16/05 12:54 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

yes I do own several pressure cookers!~

yes Agars WBS tek is great!~

Yes I do G2G transfers!~

Yes I have a glove box!~

and next time please post to the person posting the question!~

:smirk:


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Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: Big Yields [Re: Roadkill]
    #4182364 - 05/16/05 01:25 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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Roadkill said:
and next time please post to the person posting the question!~

:smirk:




I think he was! many just click on the nearest reply button.

-No need to buy all those syringes, check out liquid culture techniques if you want to do many PF jars. If it is your first time PF may be best, don't run before you can walk

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Re: Big Yields [Re: Hotnuts]
    #4182374 - 05/16/05 01:28 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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psilocyben said:
many syringes will not yield you more mushrooms.




Many syringes = many jars = many shrooms?

Quote:

hotnutz said:
Do you own a pressure cooker? If so, try out wbs. See Agar's wbs tek. It's great and works fine. Then you can consider G2G transfers to extend your colonized spawn, from the multispore inoculation of a few jars. That's if you have a gloove box. It's the best and easiest way to start off IMO.




I don't have any of that stuff, but could get it.


I am looking at spending approx. $300 on supplies. What is the best way to utilize this budget? Could I average a pound of mushrooms a month w/ this budget?

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Re: Big Yields [Re: blackout]
    #4182381 - 05/16/05 01:28 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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I think he was! many just click on the nearest reply button.





no he used the quick reply feature.

I hate that feature!~

I hate getting emails to check a post that is addressed to me.

:thumbdown:


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Re: Big Yields [Re: Scalade]
    #4182388 - 05/16/05 01:33 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

RIGHT HERE

But, you have to know what you are doing - FIRST.


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Re: Big Yields [Re: agar]
    #4182555 - 05/16/05 02:38 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

>Many syringes = many jars = many shrooms?

Wrong.

Many readings = much knowledge = many shrooms

And it only takes 1cc of spores to grow thousands of pounds.

But no ones gonna do it for you. Start with bulk and fug the PF Tek. Read on bulk, spawning, horse poo, liquid cultures, karo tek. Read read read and read somemore.


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Re: Big Yields [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4182585 - 05/16/05 02:48 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

get like 48 some odd quart jars, like 50 lbs of rye, 100-200 lbs of horse poo, a pressure cooker, and ure good to go!


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Re: Big Yields [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #4182666 - 05/16/05 03:11 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Dont spend too much on a pressure cooker.  Start with a good cheap one, like this  http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=2625289

Buy some Tenn stud substrate, get the best deal from one of the spore vendors at the time, some Rye or WBS, im pretty sure rye is easier.  And some quart jars.


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Re: Big Yields [Re: InjectTruth]
    #4182870 - 05/16/05 03:47 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

why do you need a pound a month? You obviously know nothing about growing shrooms, so i would reccommend spending 2-3 hours on this site, for 2 weeks before you buy anything.

Trust me, i read this site for hours every day for about a month before i bought anything, and i bet i could make a pound a month if i wanted to, but then a pound a month is more than i think anyone should ever have.


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Re: Big Yields [Re: Scalade]
    #4183030 - 05/16/05 04:24 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Dealing again? :grin:

Jut kidding, read, READ!!! Then think about it again, start reading again, think about it again... then do it :grin:


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Re: Big Yields [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
    #4183101 - 05/16/05 04:41 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

listen to what these guys are saying. they are giving great advice. chances are if you go ahead with your plans to try and grow large amounts you will be where you are right now except with a lot less cash.
read read read, think, read read read, think, understand yet? i know i have spent the last few months reading everything i can on this sight, even if it has nothing to do with the teks i am using. everything can be helpful to a blissful harvest. got it?

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Re: Big Yields [Re: backupwards]
    #4183212 - 05/16/05 05:12 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

this place is not meant to help one become a drug dealer


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Re: Big Yields [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #4183633 - 05/16/05 06:50 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Nobody said seriously he was going to deal, don't be so rude man...
He just wants to know what I also wanted to know when I first thought of growing, having for all my friends and me for all of our lives :grin:


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Re: Big Yields [Re: Scalade]
    #4183663 - 05/16/05 06:57 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

BTW, don't use all of your syringes at once, take your time to get a hold for some techniques, it really is a necesary step. I wouldn't want you to spend that big money on just one failed attempt :frown:

Practice makes perfect :grin: :mushroom2: :mushroom2:


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Re: Big Yields [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
    #4183711 - 05/16/05 07:05 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I can see it now, you spend a grip of cash on supplies knock up a bunch of jars and fail them all. That is enough to make any man cry. Not to mention lose interest in the hobby. Keep this in mind as well, it is a HOBBY, a semi dangerous one at that. Start small and be PATIENT!! if you have no patience you have no mushies!! Read everything you can get your eyes on, the last thing you wanna do is give somone a contamed mushy because you couldn't identify the contam therefore never knew it was a contam and kill somone or yourself.

Deepman is exactly right you need technique and 1000 jars on the first time is no technique....but 1000 jars 1000 separate times might get you technique ..if your patient and observative.
Good luck on your endeavor.

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Re: Big Yields [Re: oddiseus]
    #4184149 - 05/16/05 08:36 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

can someone link me to agar's WBS tek please?  I can't find it :frown:


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