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mushroom soil sold @ garden center?
    #4175880 - 05/14/05 09:16 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I was at a local nursery today and as I was paying for my perlite, when I saw a bag buy the peat, it said "Magical Mushroom Soil". No shit!!:eek: The label said composted for the serious grower. Has anyone seen this or anything like it. And if so is it any good? I have a felling it's not. By the way can you use cow poo the same as horse poo? Oh yeah, Diver thanx fo the info. Peace.


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Re: mushroom soil sold @ garden center? [Re: Aiko Aiko]
    #4175893 - 05/14/05 09:20 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

You can use it, but the texture is much different then h/poo and it requires a little more work to get the texture right.
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Re: mushroom soil sold @ garden center? [Re: HippieChick]
    #4175899 - 05/14/05 09:21 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Holy crap, it said "Magical", and this was sold at the local granny nursery/garden center?!?!

That is somewhat alarming to me, but also very cool indeed. You should try it out, unless it is deathly expensive.


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Re: mushroom soil sold @ garden center? [Re: jamsandwich]
    #4175923 - 05/14/05 09:29 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, I was pretty blown away for a second. The one thing that makes me a little skeptical is it was only $4.99, and it was up on a wall so I didn't get a chance to really look it over. Maybe tomorrow i give it a better look.


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Re: mushroom soil sold @ garden center? [Re: Aiko Aiko]
    #4175934 - 05/14/05 09:32 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

hmmmm, only $4.99 . I bet the keeper is behind this one, oh wait, if he was it would be $49.99.

I would try it out for 5 bucks, what if it worked incredibly well? While I seriously doubt it, 5 bucks is not that much. Ask the garden center where they get it from.


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Re: mushroom soil sold @ garden center? [Re: Aiko Aiko]
    #4175980 - 05/14/05 09:48 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

That mushroom soil is compost that has previously been used to grow mushrooms, and is now being sold as potting soil. It is not suitable for mushrooms because it is "spent".


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Re: mushroom soil sold @ garden center? [Re: taters]
    #4175988 - 05/14/05 09:52 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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That mushroom soil is compost that has previously been used to grow mushrooms, and is now being sold as potting soil. It is not suitable for mushrooms because it is "spent".




Exactly, commercial mushroom farms sell their expended mushroom compost in bulk to garden centers. All nutritional content useable by mushrooms is long gone; it's good for using in the garden and that's about it.


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Re: mushroom soil sold @ garden center? [Re: taters]
    #4175990 - 05/14/05 09:53 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

spent mushroom soil can be reused in a process called species sequencing..


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Re: mushroom soil sold @ garden center? [Re: taters]
    #4175993 - 05/14/05 09:53 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I guess that would explain the price. Still kinda funny it said Magical Mushroom.


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Re: mushroom soil sold @ garden center? [Re: mattymonkey]
    #4176018 - 05/14/05 10:00 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Species sequencing? That sounds pretty complicated. Care to enlighten me?


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Re: mushroom soil sold @ garden center? [Re: Aiko Aiko]
    #4176169 - 05/14/05 10:36 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

A little about Spent Mushroom Soil or SMS:

Commercial mushrooms grow in a specially formulated and processed compost made from wheat straw, hay, corn cobs, cotton seed hulls, gypsum and chicken manure. The 3 to 4 week long composting period is closely supervised and managed to assure that the composting temperatures exceed 160?F for a few days in addition to a steam pasteurization which occurs about one week before mushroom spawn is mixed with the compost. Finally, a layer of sphagnum peat moss mixed with ground limestone is top dressed onto the compost, and mushrooms grow on the peat.

When the harvest if finished, farmers steam pasteurize everything in the growing room and dispose of the peat moss and compost that remain. This product is sold as mushroom soil, spent mushroom compost (SMC) or spent mushroom substrate (SMS). Mushroom soil is great for gardens as a slow release organic fertilizer (2-1-1, pH 6.8) when mixed into soil or as a mulch one year and a soil amendment the next. With SMC there need be no concern about heavy metals or pesticides since the compost ingredients have very low levels of heavy metals. Mushroom farmers have used integrated pest management practices for decades and pesticides are rarely used on mushroom crops. With steam pasteurization, all weed seeds are dead as are any insects and other pests that might be present. It is best not to plant or transplant directly into SMC, mix the SMC with soil at 50-50. Many garden centers on the Southeastern Pennsylvania have SMC available by the truckload or bushel, or a listing of sources for truckload quantities can be obtained from the American Mushroom Institute-Industry Suppliers/Sources : Spent Mushroom Substrate .

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Re: mushroom soil sold @ garden center? [Re: Sammy]
    #4176208 - 05/14/05 10:47 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

hmm, pretty interesting. Sammy, thanx for the info. Peace


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Re: mushroom soil sold @ garden center? [Re: Aiko Aiko]
    #4176249 - 05/14/05 10:57 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

It is SPENT mushroom substrate, grown on already. It is  :thumbdown:, mark my words. It isnt worth a buck, except on tomato plants.


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Re: mushroom soil sold @ garden center? [Re: agar]
    #4176301 - 05/14/05 11:13 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I too can verify what Agar and others have said, although certainly my sorry ass deosn't need to verify that after you hear from the experts. I would like to add though, price is not always the major factor. Today, I went out and got 50 pounds of lime, 2.2 cubic feet of Peat, and 50 pounds of composted manure for under ten bucks. Can I hear an "Awwww yeeeaahhh?!"


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