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OfflineAbermelin
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two different states when dried
    #4175788 - 05/14/05 08:31 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

i had collected what i believed to be a psilocybe mushroom of a cow pattie, actually it was 5g's dried. when they did dry via dessicator chamber, they turned a dark dark blue ( they were originally 6" long, decently fat, white ) and smell really pungent, yet when i consumed them they had minimal effects.

the homegrown shrooms when dried stay relatively white and fairly neutral smell, and of what ive managed to grow (on grain rice), 5g's was helluva lot stronger than the natural ones.

why is it that the natural ones turned a dark azure when dried yet had little effects? is this indicative of a different psilo species like a liberty cap?


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Re: two different states when dried [Re: Abermelin]
    #4177573 - 05/15/05 11:38 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

bump.

comon, anyone know of a mushroom species that does this when dried?


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Re: two different states when dried [Re: Abermelin]
    #4177587 - 05/15/05 11:43 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Had you done shrooms recently? thereby building a tolerance?
Or did them on a full stomach?


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Re: two different states when dried [Re: blackout]
    #4177717 - 05/15/05 12:17 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

maby it was the strain i know there are some that are weaker than cubes that grow in the wild but i am not familer with those strains


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Re: two different states when dried [Re: onetime]
    #4177894 - 05/15/05 12:59 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

i have a naturally high tolerance, but that isnt really relevant as my home grown are more potent and they are supposed to be less than the wild ones. ate on an empty stomach, and hadent taken psilo for months before.

its really not the potentcy that concerned me, i was inquiring on what strain of mushroom turns a dark blue when dried.


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Re: two different states when dried [Re: Abermelin]
    #4177953 - 05/15/05 01:15 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

indoor cultivated mushrooms almost always tend to be more potent than mushrooms harvested outdoors, blueing has nothing to do with potency blueing is only a rough indicator that a mushroom might be active. Might have been a pan. sub. psychoactive and will sometimes show a blueing response but reports have been that it is a weaker psychoactive mushroom.


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Re: two different states when dried [Re: lowdominion]
    #4177990 - 05/15/05 01:22 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

pan subbs are tall skinny shrooms, ive collected em before, and eaten em. could it be a cube looking version of the pann subb?


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Re: two different states when dried [Re: Abermelin]
    #4178065 - 05/15/05 01:35 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

could very well just be a cube too just pulled this from Stamets Psilocybin Mushrooms of the World: On the psilometric scale of comparative potency P. Cubenis gets a rating of moderately potent with a maxxima reported of Heim and Hofmann(1958) of .50% psilocybin and.25% psilocin, while Gartzj(1994) reported .63% psilocybin and .11% psilocin. Stijve and de Meijer (1993)found .15% psilocybin and .33% psilocin in a Mexican Strain and .15% psilocybin and .33% psilocin in an Amazonian strain. Analyses of P.Cubenis vary substantially due to a series of complex variables. Bigwood a Beug (1982) found a fourfold variation in potency in cultivated specimens and up to a 10 fold variation in Wild specimens


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Re: two different states when dried [Re: lowdominion]
    #4178202 - 05/15/05 02:10 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

so blueing has nothing to do with potentcy? wow, and i thought i had some super potent shrooms on hand. fuck wild shrooms, not worth the time , effort and danger of collecting them. now on, i only collect wild ones for ID'ing fun.


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Re: two different states when dried [Re: Abermelin]
    #4180932 - 05/16/05 02:43 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

with any thing one dose one must learn how to do it befor one would know how to do it the way it needs to be done


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Re: two different states when dried [Re: onetime]
    #4181086 - 05/16/05 03:31 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I cant believe no one has mentioned that he ate a wild mushroom that was not positively identified. This was your BIGGEST mistake here man. I suggest you get a book for identifying mushrooms if your interested in hunting. Mushrooms demystified is my choice. There are some out there that are dedicated to psilocybes though, you may want to go that route from what i discern. Obviously you didn't kill yourself, but it is possible, please, dont eat any mushroom that your not 100% positive about its ID.


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Re: two different states when dried [Re: Abermelin]
    #4181163 - 05/16/05 04:29 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Abermelin said:
i had collected what i believed to be a psilocybe mushroom of a cow pattie,




how many times does it need to be said? if U can not make a POSITIVE ID of a wild mushroom, DON`T EAT IT ! :mad2:


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Re: two different states when dried [Re: deanofmean]
    #4181468 - 05/16/05 09:52 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Wouldn't the potency of a wild shroom be greatly reduced if it was in direct sunlight as it was growing? That could be part of the reason why it was not so potent.


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Re: two different states when dried [Re: killme]
    #4181472 - 05/16/05 09:57 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Why do you think that a wild mushroom grown in "direct light" be less potent. My mushrooms are growin in dire3ct light and have great potency.


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Re: two different states when dried [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #4181542 - 05/16/05 10:31 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I seem to recall reading somewhere (I believe in Paul Stamets Psilocybin Musrooms Of The World) that UV rays of the sun are believed to decrease potency.

HEre's the quote: "Mushrooms grown indoors seem consistently more potent than field collected specimens, probably due to nutritional factors (precursors) and protection from the dammaging effects of ultraviolet radiation.


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Re: two different states when dried [Re: killme]
    #4184576 - 05/17/05 12:59 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

i had id'd them, thats why i said they are identical to a psilo, except that they turn dark blue when dried.

ive been id'ing wild mushrooms for a year now, so im pretty confident that this fell into the psilocybin containing category, though of what type i cant be entirely sure. these made me trip, just level one for 5 grams. whatever, i guess this will remain an enigma of the mushroom community.


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