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OfflineBrightredone
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Where am I going wrong?
    #4174894 - 05/14/05 04:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Just started fruiting my cakes everything seemed to be going fine for about 5-6 days. One mushroom grew full sized, and other growth seemed to be stunted. Now even the larger one seems to be rotten. Is the cake contaminated and should I just give up? Only the one grew fullsize. I'll attach some pics if they'll help.





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Re: Where am I going wrong? [Re: Brightredone]
    #4174948 - 05/14/05 04:35 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I could be wrong but your cake looks really dry.

Might try hydrating it some more.

Did you dunk them before putting in fruiting chamber? I would also recommend rolling in vermiculite and misting for future cakes.

you might try boiling some water, suck it into a sterile syringe and allow to cool, then inject 2 - 3 cc's of water into the cake.


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Re: Where am I going wrong? [Re: Brightredone]
    #4174970 - 05/14/05 04:42 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for the info, so I shouldn't give up on the cake yet, boil water and inject once it cools? Should I go ahead and pick all the current ones off. I did mist the cake with water daily, as well as the perlite, it was water though the fridge that was filter but wasn't boiled, could that have possibly cause some contamination?


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Re: Where am I going wrong? [Re: Brightredone]
    #4175148 - 05/14/05 05:27 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

your cake is dehydrated!~

you need to clean your fruiting chamber out....get that nasty rotten fruit out of there!~
that is a nasty looking mushroom...chuck that away!~

what is all that black stuff mixed in with your perlite?

pull all the mushrooms and pins off the cake...and dunk the cake in water for 12 to 24 hours...then put it back into a clean fruiting chamber.

make sure your humidity is at 95% or higher.
do you have a humidity gauge?

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Re: Where am I going wrong? [Re: Brightredone]
    #4175881 - 05/14/05 09:16 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Ok I'll def remove the shrooms, and put in water for 12-24 hours.
If I take the shrooms off now that are slightly rotten now and boil em down, and drink it would that be safe, or could I potentially get sick. The humidity in that chamber has to be close to 100%, I check it daily.


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Re: Where am I going wrong? [Re: Brightredone]
    #4175891 - 05/14/05 09:19 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

toss those shrooms, do not attempt to consume them. Also, like Road said, what is that black stuff? Your perlite doesn't seem to be very wet. It really seems as if your chamber is too warm, or sitting on a heater or something. Whats the temp in there?


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Re: Where am I going wrong? [Re: Brightredone]
    #4175929 - 05/14/05 09:29 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

You also might want to check into dunking and rolling and, or, double end casing.
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Re: Where am I going wrong? [Re: jamsandwich]
    #4176637 - 05/15/05 01:18 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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jamsandwich said:
toss those shrooms, do not attempt to consume them. Also, like Road said, what is that black stuff? Your perlite doesn't seem to be very wet. It really seems as if your chamber is too warm, or sitting on a heater or something. Whats the temp in there?




I'm rehydrating the cake. The bottom was actually pretty wet but I guess it doesn't move the moisture upward like a typical plant. I didn't want it sitting in a puddle really either cause I read that would be no good for it. It is a possibilty It was getting to warm they were out in the garage (which is good for the humidity) but I'm sure it gets over 90-95 in there during the day. Espcially with the light on them. Would it be smarter to move them into my room, and keep the heat light on them during the day, and more around 75-85ish. Also the container I have shrooms in, should I leave it air tight for humidity reasons, or poke a few holes in the top so it can breath?


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Re: Where am I going wrong? [Re: Brightredone]
    #4176664 - 05/15/05 01:31 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i ate rotten shrooms from a grow i had two summers ago, i think they were golden teachers. i didn't realize they were rotten until i consumed most of them - vomited each time, had 'bad trips'. they didn't taste much different, they were fresh, just black and mushy. nasty stuff


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Re: Where am I going wrong? [Re: Brightredone]
    #4177113 - 05/15/05 04:27 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

90-95 degrees is way too hot. Its too hot for incubating, fruiting and anything that has to do with mushrooms. You will never have any success with those temps. Get them to where it's between 70-74 degrees for fruiting. If you can't give them what they need, they're not going to be able to give you what you desire.
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Re: Where am I going wrong? [Re: Brightredone]
    #4177173 - 05/15/05 05:08 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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The humidity in that chamber has to be close to 100%, I check it daily.





Are you sure? That cake is so dry it looks like styrofoam.

What type of hygrometer are you using? Unless you paid big $ for it, it can't be trusted. Most of the cheaper ones are unreliable.

Dunking your cake won't do any good unless you raise the humidity to > 95% because it will just dry out again.


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