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Using Pint Jars with 1/2 Pint Recipes
    #4169057 - 05/13/05 02:17 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I've been thinking about this a lot lately and wanted to get the shroomery community's opinion on this.

I'm growing shrooms for the first time using the modified PF-Tek. I recently bought some Kerr 1 pint jars because that's all I could find. I was thinking that if I used the receipe for 1/2 pint jars for the substrate cakes and then filled the jars with vermiculite wouldn't I have normal incubation grow times with twice the normal protection against outside germs because of the double amount of Vermiculite covering the mixture? Or am I wrong?

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Re: Using Pint Jars with 1/2 Pint Recipes [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #4169075 - 05/13/05 02:22 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I did my pf jars using the calculator on this page;

http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/7919/pag/2

The calculator is for half pint jars so the recipe for 2 half-pint jars will (almost) fill up 1 pint jar, I make just a little more than needed. Better have a little left over than being a little short!

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Re: Using Pint Jars with 1/2 Pint Recipes [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #4169092 - 05/13/05 02:24 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

just make up enough shit for 24 1/2 pints witch will give you enough for 12 pints. Follow the directions. Make sure the jars are wide mouth. Wipe down the top 1/2 of glass and keep it clean, fill with verm.


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Re: Using Pint Jars with 1/2 Pint Recipes [Re: tahoe]
    #4169106 - 05/13/05 02:28 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Well see I'm concerned about grow time and contamination so I might try it this way in order to see if I can't speed up the process and better protect my spores. I mean is there any negatives to maybe trying this method? If there is I'll gladly go the normal route and fill my jars with enough substrate for a 1 pint jar but I just wonder if it isn't easier and more safe to go with a 1/2 pint of substrate and fill the jar with vermiculite.


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Re: Using Pint Jars with 1/2 Pint Recipes [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #4169116 - 05/13/05 02:29 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

if it doesnt contam in the firs 2 weeks it shouldnt contam at all. Colonization times will double


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Re: Using Pint Jars with 1/2 Pint Recipes [Re: tahoe]
    #4169133 - 05/13/05 02:31 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Are colonization times based on how big the jars are or how much substrate there is in the jar?


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Re: Using Pint Jars with 1/2 Pint Recipes [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #4169165 - 05/13/05 02:34 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

tink about what you just asked. do i really need to answer that


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Re: Using Pint Jars with 1/2 Pint Recipes [Re: tahoe]
    #4169189 - 05/13/05 02:39 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think you're understanding what I'm asking.

Through research my understanding is that by using a pint jar your colonization times will increase anywhere from four days to two weeks over using a normal 1/2 pint jar. Also I understand that chance for contamination can double.

So if I take a pint jar, use a receipe for substrate for a 1/2 pint jar. Put a 1/2 pint worth of substrate into a pint jar. Then on top of the substrate I fill the jar with vermiculite to prevent contamination, wouldn't I help increase protection from contamination and at the same time speed up the colonization process over normal 1 pint standards?


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Re: Using Pint Jars with 1/2 Pint Recipes [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #4169213 - 05/13/05 02:46 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Everything doubles. Substrate ratios, colonization times, etc. Contam probs shouldn't if you were sterile enough. Just double all the ratios for what the 1/2 pint jars call for, you will be glad you did because you will probably get a bigger yield.....


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Re: Using Pint Jars with 1/2 Pint Recipes [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #4169261 - 05/13/05 02:58 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I see what you are saying..less substrate equals faster colonization time. True. BUT CONSIDER THIS..How are you going to inoculate the 1 pint jars with 1/2 pint substrate?? If you are using a spore syringe, the needle won't go in far enough to get through all that vermiculite and reach the substrate.


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Re: Using Pint Jars with 1/2 Pint Recipes [Re: veggie]
    #4169285 - 05/13/05 03:04 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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I see what you are saying..less substrate equals faster colonization time. True. BUT CONSIDER THIS..How are you going to inoculate the 1 pint jars with 1/2 pint substrate?? If you are using a spore syringe, the needle won't go in far enough to get through all that vermiculite and reach the substrate.




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Re: Using Pint Jars with 1/2 Pint Recipes [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #16012770 - 03/29/12 11:16 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

I realize this is an old thread, but I'm going to be conducting some experiments with a 1/2 pint jar.  The concept will be the same, but based around the premise that if you have self healing ports you don't need a layer of verm.  I'm considering putting the verm below it as a base (thus allowing me to have less volume for faster colonization).  I'm planning on using the small 1/4 pint of brf cake to make some liquid mycelium for some grain jars.


-150ml of dry verm as Base


Pf Tek (2:1:1)
-4 Tbsp of verm (60 ml)
-1/8th tea spoon of gypsum (0.6 ml)
-2 Tbsp of diluted coffee water (30 ml)


Coffee is diluted at 1:4

Mix it all up than add your

-2 Tbsp of Brown Rice Flour


Voila.

I'll keep you guys posted on how this goes.


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Re: Using Pint Jars with 1/2 Pint Recipes [Re: FungusMaximusIII]
    #16012801 - 03/29/12 11:27 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

I'm interested in this as well. A lot of unused 1 pt jars are kept out of commission simply because there is no widely accepted tek. I do have a question tho...how will you know when its fully colonized, like on the bottom of the substrate? Would you just give it 2 weeks from the time it colonizes around the glass or....?


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Re: Using Pint Jars with 1/2 Pint Recipes [Re: FallenSpartan]
    #16013207 - 03/29/12 01:07 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Since I won't be birthing the cake I'm going to just give it a week after it colonizes around the glass.  It's one of those thin 1/2 pint jars, so I think it'll be fine.

For curiosity's sake.  This is the destiny of the cake.


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