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i wanna learn the guitar
    #4168089 - 05/12/05 09:38 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

been thinking, and i need a hobby other than drugs....and i decided i want to learn to play the guitar. im wondering if this is something that i can teach myself....or should i look into some lessons? also, whats a good guitar for someone whos just learning like myself to buy? i dont want to spend a rediculous amont of money on it, but i also want it to be something somewhat nice. and when buying a guitar, should i go new or could i get away with buying a used one somewhere?


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Re: i wanna learn the guitar [Re: wrestler_az]
    #4168152 - 05/12/05 09:53 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I learned by having my friends show me some simple songs, which I would play over and over at home, driving my parents crazy. If you have any friends who play, see if they can teach you anything. Otherwise, look into lessons. As for books, I checked out "Guitar for Dummies" and it really helped me out. And I'll be glad to show you a few things at the next AZ Gathering. I'm sure 40 will too.


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Re: i wanna learn the guitar [Re: wrestler_az]
    #4168201 - 05/12/05 10:08 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Yea, I used Guitar for Dummies too and it's pretty good. There's a ton of information online for free though. www.cyberfret.com is pretty good to start with (the first fret section). I don't think you really need a teacher if you're just getting started. If you can borrow a friend's old guitar or something, that would be awesome.

But if you have to buy one, first decide if you want an electric guitar or acoustic (or classical :smile: but then you'll need a teacher). Electrics are generally easier to play (require less finger strength) and easier to learn on, but if you already have calloussed hands and you learn on an acoustic, switching to electric will be a breeze. Remember you'll need an amp for electric guitar eventually.

First starting out, just learn some basic chords. Learn how to strum them and switch between them, then look at some songs you like. You can look up the chord progression online and play along. As you get comfortable with chords you can move onto melodies, single notes, etc. Solo-type stuff, just not very complicated. Gradually you'll get more and more comfortable playing the instrument and you can just explore and go on your own path. Also, I recommend you don't rely on tabs too much. Try to figure as much music out by ear as you can.


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Re: i wanna learn the guitar [Re: Letto]
    #4168648 - 05/12/05 11:58 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

start out with used equiment until you know your committed. you can always trade for a new guitar later at guitar center. guitar center has good offers where you dont have to pay a dime for a year if you qualify for their credit card.

i wouldnt recommend paying for lessons unless you want to learn how to read music. surf the web or buy a book of tabs on songs from your favorite artists and have at it.


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Re: i wanna learn the guitar [Re: wrestler_az]
    #4169545 - 05/13/05 04:13 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

good desicion :laugh:

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But if you have to buy one, first decide if you want an electric guitar or acoustic (or classical  but then you'll need a teacher).



It's wise to take at least some lessons, no matter what kind of guitar or style you want to play. Best to learn the basics properly without faulty techniques that are very hard to unlearn later when they start to bother you.
Sure you can learn a lot from the internet, but someone showing you face to face what you should do etc is the best. Especially because it's hard in the beginning, but once you get the hang of it you don't want to stop anymore :laugh:

good luck! :sun:


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Re: i wanna learn the guitar [Re: stefan]
    #4169887 - 05/13/05 09:16 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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It's wise to take at least some lessons, no matter what kind of guitar or style you want to play. Best to learn the basics properly without faulty techniques that are very hard to unlearn later when they start to bother you.





Agreed! When I started Bass I started with a faulty technique. Also I suggest learning how to read music. Tabs are fine but when playing with other people it can be much easier to tell someone to play an E#. Also tabs don't give timing or length of the note.


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Re: i wanna learn the guitar [Re: scribble]
    #4169991 - 05/13/05 10:34 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I would disagree with most of these people. I started teaching myself classical guitar about a year ago, and have been progressing fine. I can play at least where a one year classical guitarist should be playing. In terms of reading music, not that big of a deal if you arent reading sheet music, which would normally be classical. Granted, knowing the notes on a guitar makes it easier to improv and solo. I find that since i know where all the notes are situated, I can solo in a certain key much easier.


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Re: i wanna learn the guitar [Re: TheCow]
    #4171419 - 05/13/05 05:08 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

If someone already played electric or acoustic guitar before making the switch to classical, then a teacher isn't really needed. But if someone with no guitar experience picks up a classical, then they will almost definitely need a teacher, at least for the technique issues that are bound to come up.


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Re: i wanna learn the guitar [Re: scribble]
    #4172785 - 05/13/05 11:19 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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scribble said:

E#






F?    :wink:


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Re: i wanna learn the guitar [Re: IAmTheWalrus212]
    #4173492 - 05/14/05 04:29 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

No one actually plays guitar anymore because its horribly outdated. Try playing dobro instead its totally easy and is used for almost everytype of music.

Or you could just get an epiphone or some crappy guitar like that. But try getting a cheap jazz guitar for like $300. Takamine's are awesome too but never on the cheap side.


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Re: i wanna learn the guitar [Re: IAmTheWalrus212]
    #4173605 - 05/14/05 05:29 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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IAmTheWalrus212 said:
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scribble said:

E#






F?    :wink:




hahah I was just going to say that.


I think if you have any ounce of creativity in you at all, then you would be able to figure out the guitar by yourself.  Lessons are fine and all, but it really depends on what you want to make of your new found interest.  I suppose if you want to be a session player (doubtful) then you definately want to invest in lessons, but if this is just a got-nothing-better-to-do-in-my-spare-time-hobby, then I would just fiddle around with it by yourself.


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Re: i wanna learn the guitar [Re: mushroomviking]
    #4177250 - 05/15/05 06:54 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

dude

this is a nice deal for someone starting out. check out this guy's auction.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=47070&item=7321809415&rd=1

you get a fender strat (low end model) and an amp. what more could you ask for?

the lower end strats (squiers and bullets) are also frequently sold as a starter package with an amp at places like guitar center. theyre cheap and GREAT for beginngers. an amp is absolutely essential unless youre trying to learn acoustic jams, in which case, an aucoustic guitar is in order

but nothing rocks like an electric guitar!!!!


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Re: i wanna learn the guitar [Re: FleaAccela]
    #4178798 - 05/15/05 05:08 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I personally wouldn't touch a squier, and I didn't start off with one either. But I suppose they're ok for someone who hasn't played before.


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Re: i wanna learn the guitar [Re: mushroomviking]
    #4179114 - 05/15/05 06:39 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

you don't need lesons, and squire's suck ass.

cyberfret is a cool site. And teaching yourself allows you to develop a style that is all your own. all your methods and quirks as a guitar player, favorite cords, everything, comes from your own heart. Teach yourself. I personally think it is better to learn with a shit guitar that is a bitch to play. It's often discourageing, but if you are dedicated (which is required) it's not an issue. Once you know your basic shit and can pull it all off on a shit guitar, not only are nice guitars a breeze to play, but they seem to talk to you. A really nice guitar has the ability to give you feedback on your playing and direct where you go in a way. There is a monsterous chasm between the experiences of playing a shitty guitar and a good one. But learning on a crap guitar is the most efficient way to learn. Once you are comfortable with where you are as a guitar player, then go nuts and splurge on the best guitar you have ever laid your hands on. It will without doubt become your best friend.

I'm currently playing a Dean nylon string guitar. It's gorgeosity incarnate. I started with a shity Oscar Schmidt that would not hold a tune. I learned to play on that, wich was the hardest guitar I have ever tried to play. It was a major blessing in disguise.


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Re: i wanna learn the guitar [Re: Letto]
    #4180366 - 05/16/05 12:04 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Letto said:
If someone already played electric or acoustic guitar before making the switch to classical, then a teacher isn't really needed. But if someone with no guitar experience picks up a classical, then they will almost definitely need a teacher, at least for the technique issues that are bound to come up.



Once I again I disagree. I picked up classical with no prior guitar experience at all. Believe me a teacher is not needed. Just get a decent book on it, and start learning. No offense to musicians, but music and music theory really arent all that complicated.


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Re: i wanna learn the guitar [Re: emptywisdom]
    #4180561 - 05/16/05 12:51 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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emptywisdom said:
you don't need lesons, and squire's suck ass.

cyberfret is a cool site. And teaching yourself allows you to develop a style that is all your own. all your methods and quirks as a guitar player, favorite cords, everything, comes from your own heart. Teach yourself. I personally think it is better to learn with a shit guitar that is a bitch to play. It's often discourageing, but if you are dedicated (which is required) it's not an issue. Once you know your basic shit and can pull it all off on a shit guitar, not only are nice guitars a breeze to play, but they seem to talk to you. A really nice guitar has the ability to give you feedback on your playing and direct where you go in a way. There is a monsterous chasm between the experiences of playing a shitty guitar and a good one. But learning on a crap guitar is the most efficient way to learn. Once you are comfortable with where you are as a guitar player, then go nuts and splurge on the best guitar you have ever laid your hands on. It will without doubt become your best friend.

I'm currently playing a Dean nylon string guitar. It's gorgeosity incarnate. I started with a shity Oscar Schmidt that would not hold a tune. I learned to play on that, wich was the hardest guitar I have ever tried to play. It was a major blessing in disguise.




That was pretty inspiring man


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Re: i wanna learn the guitar [Re: emptywisdom]
    #4181658 - 05/16/05 11:50 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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emptywisdom said:
you don't need lesons, and squire's suck ass.




right, we all know squires arent the best of quality.

but were talkin about a guy who has no prior experience with the guitar and doesnt know for a fact if he will excel or will want to continue to play. what if he becomes disinterested?

whats the use of dropping $400-1200 on a guitar if youre not even sure if its a hobby or a practice you're not 100% positive you're going to play it for a long period of time?

i say squier is the way to go if youre just starting. if you get badass at it, get a better guitar, but dont go dropping $600 on a single instrument if youre not sure about it.

shit, buy a cheap guitar and spend the other money on other things like an amp and guitar pedal effects (wah wah pedals, distortion pedals, chorus, flanger, all that shit is expensive too, but definately essential)


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