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trippingchef
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Lets raid area 51!
#4167775 - 05/12/05 06:30 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Since acording to the goverments official stance the infamous "area 51" does not exist. If we all met at a specific date and time we could all rush the place recordin as we went. We could bring press and so on. Since officially there are not even buildings there we would not legaly be oncsidered to have broken an intering or going onto someone private property. Some could even bring guns if they were legally allowed to bear them. What do you all think?
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usefulidiot
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When has the government ever denied the existance of Area 51?
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Silversoul
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Re: Lets raid area 51! [Re: usefulidiot]
#4167791 - 05/12/05 06:34 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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usefulidiot said: When has the government ever denied the existance of Area 51?
Up until a few years ago when a former Area 51 employee sued for workplace abuses.
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Silversoul
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Re: Lets raid area 51! [Re: Silversoul]
#4167816 - 05/12/05 06:45 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nevermind. Apparently, the official position of the government is that they can "neither confirm nor deny" the existence of a facility at Groom Lake(Area 51).
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usefulidiot
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Re: Lets raid area 51! [Re: Silversoul]
#4167817 - 05/12/05 06:45 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Paradigm said: Up until a few years ago when a former Area 51 employee sued for workplace abuses.
If that is the case then that's pretty interesting.. I guess I had thought that any government 'denial' would have probably been more about alot of the alleged secret black ops projects and whatnot that goes on (and most likely is not limited to) that particular area, not about the existence of the complex itself..
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usefulidiot
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Re: Lets raid area 51! [Re: Silversoul]
#4167871 - 05/12/05 06:57 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Paradigm said: Apparently, the official position of the government is that they can "neither confirm nor deny" the existence of a facility at Groom Lake(Area 51).
hmm..I wonder if the government has any official positions that don't absolutely reak of twisted deceptive horse shit..
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bhamlaxy
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Re: Lets raid area 51! [Re: usefulidiot]
#4168005 - 05/12/05 07:19 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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i do think it would be interesting to just jump the fences and run, but chances are we would need a few thousand people! We would be running, and then a few fighter jets would bomb the fuck
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barfightlard
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If say 10,000 people gathered and marched into area 51 with no weapons do you think they would all be shot, assuming none ran away and held ther ground?
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Learyfan
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Good idea. Finding people willing to be shot for trespassing will be difficult, though.
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SoopaX
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i'm down. I think having a live feed tv camera, or a few hundred of them, would cut down on the number of abuses. Maybe not though.
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Silversoul
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Re: Lets raid area 51! [Re: SoopaX]
#4168520 - 05/12/05 09:25 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's when they'd take out the flashy-thingies.
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You guys are just kidding yourselves with the Area 51 -> Alien bullshit.
Some of our best aircraft has been developed in Area 51.
If we discover the flying discs are just high-tech spy/war planes all the alien abductees will disappear.
So, the question remains, why compromise your government's plans to create something to protect you?
For the sake of finding out it's not what all the conspiracy theorists say?
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Re: Lets raid area 51! [Re: Adden]
#4168975 - 05/12/05 11:51 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm a big Area 51/Conspiracy Nut/Alien nut... not because I buy the stories, just because I find it interesting. But I guarentee you anyone attempting to get into Area 51 no matter the size would be arrested or worse. They have contigency plans for this sort of thing. There was a protest up there last year with something like 500-1000 people and there were over ten jeeps with camo dudes watching the protesters and making sure nothing got out of hand... just imagine what would happen if the protesters had gone over the line.
Let it go and wait for more Area 51 employees to come forward with info like Lazar did.
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usefulidiot
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So, the question remains, why compromise your government's plans to create something to protect you?
Your kidding, right?
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Madtowntripper
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Re: Lets raid area 51! [Re: usefulidiot]
#4170075 - 05/13/05 09:02 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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I honestly dont think theres much shit at area 51 anymore...
I imagine the government just keeps it around because it gives all the conspiracy-kooks a place to vent their energies at, while the government conducts its real research in other places....
Its a big country kids, with plenty of places for the government to hide its toys...
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SoopaX
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Re: Lets raid area 51! [Re: Adden]
#4170142 - 05/13/05 09:21 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't think it has to do with aliens, I think it has to do with multi-million dollar airplanes. My concern? It's "my" freakin multi million dollars. What would be so bad if we SAW some of the new planes?
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Re: Lets raid area 51! [Re: SoopaX]
#4170197 - 05/13/05 09:34 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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> What would be so bad if we SAW some of the new planes?
Because seeing the multi-million dollar planes reduces their value by several of those multi-million dollars. I lived near a air force military base once... one that houses some very cool planes that we do know a little about... and although I never saw anything odd, some of the sounds that I would hear from the base were... for lack of a better word, alien. (I am not by any means claiming that the sounds were alien space ships... but rather they were unlike any noises I have ever heard before.)
Don't bother asking about the sounds or the base, 'cause I won't say any more about them. The place I was living at the time was on a farm that was located beside the base and there were not many people around the area.
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Asante
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You guys are plotting to invade a US Gov't restricted area
Not very smart.
Best case scenario is that they'll use teargas and use rubber ammo to keep you in the cloud. Worst case scenario is that they'll just shoot and respond to your crowd panic as if it were rioting.
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Some could even bring guns if they were legally allowed to bear them.
That would be particularly unwise.
There's no aliens in Area 51 just next-generation weapons development. The US gov't should get real and admit it and shroomerites should get real and not do something provoking a sniper in a guntower or however it's guarded.
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barfightlard
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Re: Lets raid area 51! [Re: Adden]
#4170356 - 05/13/05 10:21 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well if we marched there with HUGE numbers of people and they started killing us we'd see how much they really want to "protect" us.
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Learyfan
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Re: Lets raid area 51! [Re: Asante]
#4170366 - 05/13/05 10:24 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: There's no aliens in Area 51 just next-generation weapons development. The US gov't should get real and admit it and shroomerites should get real and not do something provoking a sniper in a guntower or however it's guarded.
I'd love to know how you know that. Bob Lazar worked there and he said he saw aliens and space craft. I know of at least one person who can cooberate Lazar's story.
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