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OfflineFluxburn
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How much kratom can you handle?
    #4164775 - 05/12/05 02:05 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

How much kratom
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teaspoon
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Re: How much kratom can you handle? [Re: Fluxburn]
    #4165402 - 05/12/05 08:28 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

4-5g dry, thats good potency, after 4.5 i feel quite nervously sick, i.e too much...
but thats just me :wink:


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Re: How much kratom can you handle? [Re: minErval]
    #4166846 - 05/12/05 04:40 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Do you wiegh it out? I seriously just dump x amount into my swiss gold tea stainer thang and let it steep for a minute or two. Funny how the powder little bits get into the tea and give it a little stronger edge yah know. The last part gets nice and bitters. Man after awhile you sorta enjoy the bitterness of kratom.


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Re: How much kratom can you handle? [Re: Fluxburn]
    #4167055 - 05/12/05 05:36 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

ONE TIME ME AND MY FRIEND DID like 10-15 grams he puked i was fine just really disoriented that was our first time, KRAtoM OD lol! oh well at least we didnt die!


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Re: How much kratom can you handle? [Re: whitegreyhat]
    #4167492 - 05/12/05 07:11 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Wow, I don't know. If you grind the stuff up it becomes a whole lot denser with wieght to size ratio. So a tablespoon must be at least 2 grams or more, maybe like 3 grams.


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Re: How much kratom can you handle? [Re: Fluxburn]
    #4168362 - 05/12/05 10:44 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

This is my new favorite "recreational" (seeing as DMT is in no way recreational) entheogen. Oh so soothing and relaxing. I just love it. I've never once experienced nausea, just pure bliss! :thumbup:


I want to try it in combination with Kava, chamomile, blue lotus &  red poppy flowers to augment it's soothing effect. :faded:

I have to say, the taste does kinda' grow on ya... It's really not too bad!


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Re: How much kratom can you handle? [Re: entheoindole]
    #4168465 - 05/12/05 11:12 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I am still waiting to try the mighty kava. Kratom walks all over yopo snuff, of the pain!


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Re: How much kratom can you handle? [Re: whitegreyhat]
    #4169889 - 05/13/05 09:18 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

heh, yeah, I got a couple ounces recently from a supplier who suggested 14g was a decent dose.

so I drank my half ounce worth of tea, ended up disoriented and itchy, sweating profusely and being unable to move or concentrate on anything without getting nauseous for a couple hours.  I handled it, but I'd highly suggest against doses that high :smirk:.  if I try it again it'll be at 5-7g, or maybe less.

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Re: How much kratom can you handle? [Re: spores]
    #4169900 - 05/13/05 09:35 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

quick side note. If you google the keywords "kratom tea recipe", a recipe comes up calling for 50 grams!

Below that recipe it says "some people experience nausea above 25 grams". That sure as hell is an understatement.


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Re: How much kratom can you handle? [Re: Fluxburn]
    #4175010 - 05/14/05 04:52 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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I am still waiting to try the mighty kava. Kratom walks all over yopo snuff, of the pain!




Oh god, comparing Kratom & yopo is like comparing playing Mario Kart & driving a rocket car. Kava is not really too euphoric, so don't get your hopes up too much, but it is relaxing now & then. The paste is the best way to go.


And trying to compare kratom dosage as a mark of strength is rather silly, if not harmful. I've taken an entire ounce before.... but that was the lowest grade. Three teaspoons of the highest grade has made me puke. It's such a range in potency that it's uncomparable.


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Re: How much kratom can you handle? [Re: Fluxburn]
    #4175040 - 05/14/05 04:58 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

its kinda meaningless to say something like this because the potency varies so greatly. ive had anywhere from 2 grams to 25 grams throughout my many times having it. depends on the potency and if you have tolerance from it or opiates/opioids.


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Re: How much kratom can you handle? [Re: Fluxburn]
    #4175083 - 05/14/05 05:09 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I found this other source, which is half the price of iamshaman and just as good if not better quality.....on ebay of all places.


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Re: How much kratom can you handle? [Re: Fluxburn]
    #4175154 - 05/14/05 05:29 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, I was checkin ebay and saw some sellers like that a little while ago. which one was it that you tried so i know it's good? i might try it out for the price. I was hesistant buying on ebay cus i wasnt sure of how good the stuff was, but if you say its good maybe i'll try it out.


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Re: How much kratom can you handle? [Re: Fluxburn]
    #4175167 - 05/14/05 05:32 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

like the main guy selling, it is pretty obvious


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Re: How much kratom can you handle? [Re: Fluxburn]
    #4175189 - 05/14/05 05:36 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

:thumbup:


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