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Neal Cassidy, Ginsberg, the Dead, and you!
    #4164745 - 05/12/05 01:58 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Does anyone have a recording of a show where either Neal or Ginsberg opened for the Dead?  There might be some on Archive but I think it was pretty early on when they toured together.

:grin: :gd_icon:


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Re: Neal Cassidy, Ginsberg, the Dead, and you! [Re: pantsboy]
    #4164750 - 05/12/05 01:59 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Hell yeah, gotta love the Merry Pranksters!


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Re: Neal Cassidy, Ginsberg, the Dead, and you! [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4164754 - 05/12/05 02:01 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

:thumbup: :smirk:


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Re: Neal Cassidy, Ginsberg, the Dead, and you! [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4164755 - 05/12/05 02:01 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I want a copy of the bus movie .... good luck finding a torrent of that  :grin:


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Re: Neal Cassidy, Ginsberg, the Dead, and you! [Re: TheDudeAbides]
    #4164764 - 05/12/05 02:03 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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I want a copy of the bus movie .... good luck finding a torrent of that  :grin:




I have it man. PM me if u want to work out a trade...


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Re: Neal Cassidy, Ginsberg, the Dead, and you! [Re: TheDudeAbides]
    #4164768 - 05/12/05 02:03 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah dude, I'm going to watch that on Friday for a class I'm taking on the counter-culture. It's all very interesting stuff and hella fun to learn about.


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Re: Neal Cassidy, Ginsberg, the Dead, and you! [Re: pantsboy]
    #4164782 - 05/12/05 02:06 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Yeah dude, I'm going to watch that on Friday for a class I'm taking on the counter-culture. It's all very interesting stuff and hella fun to learn about.




right on man! if you haven't already done so, read "the electric koolaid acid test"


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Re: Neal Cassidy, Ginsberg, the Dead, and you! [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4164807 - 05/12/05 02:11 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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pantsboy said:
Yeah dude, I'm going to watch that on Friday for a class I'm taking on the counter-culture. It's all very interesting stuff and hella fun to learn about.




right on man! if you haven't already done so, read "the electric koolaid acid test"




Nice! I probably will, lately I've been reading aeverything from Kinsey, Kerouac, Ginsberg, Burroughs, and I actuallly just finished reading White Shroud. I never was too big on reading, but I'm totally hooked on all the literature/poetry of that time and by pop culture icons.


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Re: Neal Cassidy, Ginsberg, the Dead, and you! [Re: pantsboy]
    #4164813 - 05/12/05 02:13 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Well he didn't "open up" for them, but archive.org has two shows where he does some raps.

http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=14718

http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=15089





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Re: Neal Cassidy, Ginsberg, the Dead, and you! [Re: Learyfan]
    #4164837 - 05/12/05 02:18 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Nice! Thanks! I like the set list for the shows too.


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Re: Neal Cassidy, Ginsberg, the Dead, and you! [Re: pantsboy]
    #4165515 - 05/12/05 09:28 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)



Ginsberg is a divine avatar to me


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Re: Neal Cassidy, Ginsberg, the Dead, and you! [Re: pantsboy]
    #4166547 - 05/12/05 03:42 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I have a few copies of shows where Neil and the Pranksters do some weird shit before the Dead come out.


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Re: Neal Cassidy, Ginsberg, the Dead, and you! [Re: Learyfan]
    #4166748 - 05/12/05 04:20 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

how do i use the archive downloads? To many options I got . I have dsl.


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Re: Neal Cassidy, Ginsberg, the Dead, and you! [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #4167656 - 05/12/05 07:53 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

How do you use archive.org? You just click on the link and it downloads to your hard drive.

Ziddy: do you like NAMBLA? Don't you think it's messed up that older men take advantage of boys who may regret having had a homosexual relationship later in their life? That could really screw a person's head up.





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Re: Neal Cassidy, Ginsberg, the Dead, and you! [Re: Learyfan]
    #4167944 - 05/12/05 09:09 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I had sex as a youth with a man - I turned out ok, and always had deep feelings for him. Frankly, he acted as a bridge for me into the world of adulthood, empowering me with my own homosexuality. The issue of Man/Boy love is one consistently met with hysteria, despite its noble cardinal roots in other times and places.



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Re: Neal Cassidy, Ginsberg, the Dead, and you! [Re: zahudulallah]
    #4168075 - 05/12/05 09:34 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I think that if it were a perfect world, it wouldn't be an issue. But since we live in a world that looks down on homosexuality, I think it's irresponsible to do something sexual with a confused young boy. Boys go through phases and experiment. I think the chances are good that most of the boys who have sex with these grown men regret it later in life once they've changed.

I'm not saying homosexuality is a choice, but experimenting with it is. A grown man taking advantage of a boy's "gay phase" could be extremely damaging to the boy's psyche later in life. Look at SS7. Although he was of age at the time, he thought he was bisexual for a short while (though he didn't do anything but kiss a guy). Would he regret having had sex with a guy now? Maybe not, but most people would. The point is, SS7 changed his sexual persuasion, and I think it probably happens to boys younger than him all time.

I still like Ginsberg, but he makes the counter culture look bad when he messes around with NAMBLA. I also still have nothing but respect for you as well, BTW.





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Re: Neal Cassidy, Ginsberg, the Dead, and you! [Re: Learyfan]
    #4168082 - 05/12/05 09:36 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm not saying homosexuality is a choice, but experimenting with it is. A grown man taking advantage of a boy's "gay phase" could be extremely damaging to the boy's psyche later in life. Look at SS7. Although he was of age at the time, he thought he was bisexual for a short while (though he didn't do anything but kiss a guy). Would he regret having had sex with a guy now? Maybe not, but most people would. The point is, SS7 changed his sexual persuasion, and I think it probably happens to boys younger than him all time.



Two things:

1. I was 19 at the time. I didn't even start questioning my sexuality until I was legally an adult.
2. I don't regret it. It was a valuable learning experience that helped me grow as a person.


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Re: Neal Cassidy, Ginsberg, the Dead, and you! [Re: Learyfan]
    #4168128 - 05/12/05 09:48 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Not only did Allen Ginsberg join NAMBLA, he dedicated most of his activism in the 90's to Boylove emancipation. Everyone around him of course raised an eye brow, however he would always bark back from his own experience that the hysteria over pederasty reminded him of how homosexuals were treated when he was growing up in the 1930's. Remember, the counter culture at one point had no tolerance for homosexuals.

Not to mention Allen Ginsberg was a boylover himself, and that's what boylovers do; they join NAMBLA and become activists for their liberation.

It's a matter of civil rights and emancipation. Men and boys in consensual relationships have every right to be free from inquisition. Young people are the bitter last frontier of the sexual revolution. They are currently regarded as women were before feminism.



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Re: Neal Cassidy, Ginsberg, the Dead, and you! [Re: Silversoul]
    #4168229 - 05/12/05 10:14 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm not saying homosexuality is a choice, but experimenting with it is. A grown man taking advantage of a boy's "gay phase" could be extremely damaging to the boy's psyche later in life. Look at SS7. Although he was of age at the time, he thought he was bisexual for a short while (though he didn't do anything but kiss a guy). Would he regret having had sex with a guy now? Maybe not, but most people would. The point is, SS7 changed his sexual persuasion, and I think it probably happens to boys younger than him all time.



Two things:

1. I was 19 at the time. I didn't even start questioning my sexuality until I was legally an adult.
2. I don't regret it. It was a valuable learning experience that helped me grow as a person.




Yes, I already said that you were of age at the time and that you might not regret it. I was just using you as an example because you had changed your sexual persuasion. Image a grown man taking advantage of a 13 year old boy going through a similar phase. It could be extremely damaging to the boy once the phase is over.


Ziddy: I think that where we differ is at the word "consent". I think that a boy 16 years of age is the absolute youngest that any grown man should be sexually involved with. I don't know what age you're talking about.





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Re: Neal Cassidy, Ginsberg, the Dead, and you! [Re: Learyfan]
    #4168237 - 05/12/05 10:16 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Anything above puberty with boys.


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