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 Gillette
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 Lab Rats 
#4162080 - 05/11/05 01:59 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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So today I was reading this article about spinal cord injuries, and how scientists have found a way to repair the cells in lab rats broken spines....which is cool, because, maybe they can cure paralysis and stuff.....but the real question here is....the rats....did the scientists break their little backs just for research? how does a rat acquire a spinal injury? I don't think he does. I think they take the little guy and break his cute little rat back. Thats what I think.
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 Re: Lab Rats [Re: Gillette]
#4162090 - 05/11/05 02:01 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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As cruel as it seems, animal testing is necessary. It advances research and prevents disasters.
Also, it gives rabbits silky smooth fur, and long luxurious lashes.
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Irradiated_Feces
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Vivisections rule!
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Burke Dennings
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Wow, I can't believe this is all the Pub has to say about lab rats and animal testing.
I take it by your silence that you agree with me, then. 
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ummikko
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Re: Lab Rats [Re: Gillette]
#4162197 - 05/11/05 02:34 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Gillette said:
So today I was reading this article about spinal cord injuries, and how scientists have found a way to repair the cells in lab rats broken spines....which is cool, because, maybe they can cure paralysis and stuff.....but the real question here is....the rats....did the scientists break their little backs just for research? how does a rat acquire a spinal injury? I don't think he does. I think they take the little guy and break his cute little rat back. Thats what I think.
You're right. They cut the rat's spinal cord.
So, if you could undo the research and save the rats, but by doing so lose the knowledge gained about healing nerve tissue, would you?
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Irradiated_Feces
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animal testing protests are sooo 90's
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Burke Dennings
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I dunno what the hippies are doing these days. 
Personally, I'm for rat genocide, with or without scientific basis.
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Re: Lab Rats [Re: ummikko]
#4162228 - 05/11/05 02:42 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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These two rabbits escape from the laboratory and see grass for the first time. Lollopy, lollopy, lollopy, lop, they bounce through the grass when they meet an older rabbit. "Hello," says the older rabbit. "Would you like to come and stay at my warren?" "What's a warren?" ask the two rabbits. "Don't worry," replies the older rabbit. "Come and see." So off they go and they like the tunnels and chambers of the older rabbit's warren, and decide to stay. In the morning, the two rabbits are awaken by the thumping of the older rabbit: thump thump thump. "Come on out for the cabbages," calls the older rabbit. "What's a cabbage?" ask the two rabbits. So off they go and enjoy the day in the fields eating cabbages. They return very satisfied with their tummies full of cabbage and agree a good day was had. The following day: thump thump thump, "Come on out for the cabbages", and the same for the day after that. By the end of the third day, rabbit one says to rabbit two, "These cabbages are good but there must be more to life. Let's go and find it." Rabbit two agrees, so off they go lollopy lollopy lollopy lop across the grass. They meet a younger rabbit. "Hello," says the younger rabbit. "Why don't you come and live in my warren. I got young girly rabbits in my warren." So they agree and for three days, it was thump thump thump. By the end of the third day, rabbit one says to rabbit two, "Oh man, I gotta get out of here." "WHY?!?" asks rabbit two. "This is the best time of our lives!" he exclaims. "Yeah," says rabbit one, "but it has been a week since I've had a cigarette.
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Re: Lab Rats [Re: Gillette]
#4162263 - 05/11/05 02:50 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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yeah bush band this testing for humans do to he thinks its against his beliefs though i think they were using human embrios in this ttesting. I may be wrong though.
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vinsue
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As cruel as it seems, animal testing is necessary.
...... So testing on cats, dogs, chimps, whatever else that breathes, thats good too ?? How about testing on prisoners ? { No, not you, Prisoner#1 }
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Re: Lab Rats [Re: vinsue]
#4162375 - 05/11/05 03:10 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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prisoners are humans.. so they're off limits, that has to do with human rights.. rights that aren't nec. extended to animals. as for chimps, they do testing on chimps for many things... before they do testing on live humans.. its part of a progressive testing process. rats are just bottom of the barrel, K?
Edited by vivid (05/11/05 03:12 PM)
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ummikko
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Re: Lab Rats [Re: vinsue]
#4162383 - 05/11/05 03:11 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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IMO it's not about what species you're testing on, it's about what you hope to accomplish. Cure for cancer or a new lipstick?
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Re: Lab Rats [Re: vinsue]
#4162386 - 05/11/05 03:11 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think so. Some animals have specific bodily functions that are relevant to certain tests (ie. some animals may have a similar nervous or respiratory systems to a human), and if we can learn important things by animal testing, why not?
I don't think many labs do tests without a specific intention, so it's not like the animals are being harmed for fun.
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vivid
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you know, you could always sign away your rights and take the place of a rat vinsue, if it bothers you so much.
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Burke Dennings
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Re: Lab Rats [Re: vivid]
#4162408 - 05/11/05 03:16 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Actually, you can't sign away some of your rights. They're "inalienable". That means you can't waive certain rights even if you wanted to. Not from a legal standpoint, anyway.
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vinsue
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Re: Lab Rats [Re: vivid]
#4162445 - 05/11/05 03:21 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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you could always sign away your rights and take the place of a rat
Can I take the place of a chimp instead, chump ??
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Re: Lab Rats [Re: vinsue]
#4162470 - 05/11/05 03:24 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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*leans back and grabs popcorn.
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vivid
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wah wah wah, it was a joke. dumbass.
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Burke Dennings
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Re: Lab Rats [Re: vivid]
#4162577 - 05/11/05 03:50 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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You suck at jokes.
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Re: Lab Rats [Re: Gillette]
#4162646 - 05/11/05 04:05 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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There are a LOT of regulations about animal testing, and despite what the PETA newsletter might claim, they are adhered to and enforced.
Both of my parents work in labs. They use mice a lot, and anyone with access to the mice receives special training to ensure they are treated humanely, and the testing done on animals is well monitored.
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