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Invisibleflowstone
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Poppy questions
    #4155487 - 05/10/05 01:03 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I was wondering if an ever clear extraction of pods would leave anything behind a hot water extraction would not.

And vice verse, does pod tea leave actives in the left over straw?
The answer is yes, because you can boil pods a second time for effects.


Quoted from W_S:

"This happens because of heating over 70'C which destroys the Meconic acid which makes the alkaloids more soluble. Meconic acid and Narcotine/noscapine significantly potentiate the Opium without being true narcotics themselves."

So a low simmer at less that 70'C is the best way to make pods tea, temperature wise?
Could these pods be used again in an everclear laudanum extraction for any effects?


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Re: Poppy questions [Re: flowstone]
    #4155799 - 05/10/05 02:28 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

70 eh? thanks for the info. i just been using water just shy of boilng for tea.

as for putty and cooked opium it must be pretty hard to get the benefits of those chemicals while reducing liquid. it would take days i immagine.


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Re: Poppy questions [Re: Mitchnast]
    #4158029 - 05/10/05 05:04 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I'd like to hear from W_S or some other poppy veterans what is the best method for maximum extraction, minimum sickness, and full out experience.
70'C= how close to boiling temp? I always used to get the water hot just before it boils, and then pour it over my pods, but I am thinking a low simmer at or below 70C will be more beneficial.


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Re: Poppy questions [Re: flowstone]
    #4158301 - 05/10/05 06:14 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

i was under the impression that opoids disove readily into cold water


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Re: Poppy questions [Re: Mitchnast]
    #4164853 - 05/12/05 02:23 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I just realized that with his Lemonade Laudanum tek .
If that is the case, why do people even use heat, to make it go faster?
Are you saying a 8 hour cold water soak will get everything a 10 minute simmer will?


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Re: Poppy questions [Re: flowstone]
    #4173241 - 05/14/05 02:11 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Bump! I'd still like a few questions answered if anyone knows.
I'm working on the best way to do this.


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