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Muppet
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not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD
#4155451 - 05/09/05 10:51 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ever meet one of those people that can chat online for hours on end, but won't hardly say a freaken word in real life? Cause it seems to me that these types of people are growing in numbers. I can't for the life of me figure out why that is though.
I did, however, stumble upon a comic that I think fits:
I don't know why I felt the comic was important (or even this thread for that matter) but a bored shroomerite's gotta do something, right...and it was either this or playing mindsweeper for the umpteenth thousandth time :shrugs:
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: Muppet]
#4155497 - 05/09/05 11:06 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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i can relate to the mouse
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Muppet
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: oDin]
#4155498 - 05/09/05 11:07 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think we all can on this one
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: Muppet]
#4155502 - 05/09/05 11:07 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: Muppet]
#4155518 - 05/09/05 11:12 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well, with someone who has 13,000 posts, maybe you can understand very easily?
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: Muppet]
#4155539 - 05/09/05 11:20 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Maybe because online you can speak your mind without getting your head caved in?
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Muppet
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: faslimy]
#4155568 - 05/09/05 11:30 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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nah...I stick primarily to message boards for all my human interraction needs because, quite frankly, I have unbelievably weak communication skills (to the point where I can't even instant message effectively) and if you've ever paid close attention to how fucken long it takes me to make even the most simplistic posts, you'd know exactly what I'm talking about here
I'm just about as detached as a person can get
I seriously doubt everyone else on this planet is just as fucked up as I am though
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: Muppet]
#4155593 - 05/09/05 11:38 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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I know a kid, its bad. Bad, dude.
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Muppet
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: Adden]
#4155612 - 05/09/05 11:43 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah...no shit
there's this one chick I work with that literally won't say a god damn thing...ever (like you could be talking directly to her, and she'll just look at you like a windows box trying to decode a linux disk)
it's the weirdest shit
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: Muppet]
#4155625 - 05/09/05 11:46 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Reading this makes me feel sad for you ... Being detached is a horrible way to live Ask Odin about this Ask me about it I want you to feel attached Its pretty much what this site is all about guy You have to be attached in this life or you will go crazy I have my Suzy Odin has Annie I would hate my life if i wasnt attached Ask Ripple about attachments...**Chinadoll
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: PawPaw]
#4155650 - 05/09/05 11:54 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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I agree completely (hence the reason I continue comming back to this site despite all the odd shit that's popped up about me over the years)
I can't seem to make it beyond casual 'hi's in the real world though - I get beyond that first initial fifteen seconds and my mind goes fucken blank (which is also the reason I either stay on the move at gatherings, or simply fall the fuck asleep)
my mind apparently can't grasp much of anything for any considerable length of time
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: Muppet]
#4155754 - 05/10/05 12:18 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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We didnt get snap overnight Muppett Just remember you have time to find yourself Your ok so dont sweat small stuff Dont think you wont figure it out..i think you will be just fine Enjoy life and dont analize shit to closely Ive allways liked you because you are a special person Dont worry about what others think You will be just fine You might find someone that makes you feel so damn good inside that you cant feel anything but good Sometimes it takes awhile
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: Muppet]
#4156116 - 05/10/05 02:28 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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grab life by the horns dog you only live this one once.
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: Dreamer987]
#4156127 - 05/10/05 02:36 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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I prefer interaction in all forms.
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: Muppet]
#4156240 - 05/10/05 03:30 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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I remembered at the ohio gathering last year, there were people that would barely talk to you, even if you talked to them. it was weird.
There were fewer (if any) quiet people in arizona. in arizona you were talking a lot, and even with a hoarse voice at that. I think you're judging yourself a little too harshly
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: Muppet]
#4156301 - 05/10/05 04:17 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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/future
- head-terminals
You can connect at any station, example bus.
+ Connect head-terminal to bus-terminal
. . . . CONNECTED . . . .
Welcome to the Bus chat...
And you would have Internet implementations EVERYWHERE..
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Muppet
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: kaiowas]
#4157057 - 05/10/05 10:54 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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kaiowas said: There were fewer (if any) quiet people in arizona. in arizona you were talking a lot, and even with a hoarse voice at that. I think you're judging yourself a little too harshly
that may very well be the case...I tend to beat the living shit outta myself endlessly
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: Muppet]
#4157066 - 05/10/05 10:56 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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face-to-face communication is key!
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: Muppet]
#4157070 - 05/10/05 10:58 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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It really depends on my comfort level with the people...for instance, I can be very talkative if I am with someone who I perceive as my peer and ally, but with my mother in law I don't say a single word because I know she hates me.
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: MOTH]
#4157081 - 05/10/05 11:02 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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I prefer face to face, I barely talked to anyone on here before a gathering but was cool with meeting them and talking with them face to face. You can message people on here all you want but you never really get to know someone until you meet them.
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: Muppet]
#4157095 - 05/10/05 11:08 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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I agree, I feel in order to talk in realife you need to have a conection or an interest that the group can shaire and talk about. I for one when im with a crowd am often a quiet observer with maners that doesnt cut people off. So there fore i never get much time to speak. Online on here There is no waiting turn for he loud mouths. There are common ideas we all prety much shaire and our thoughts can flow easily together.
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
#4157145 - 05/10/05 11:24 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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I find it easy if theres something in common to talk about, otherwise its a nightmare, like talkin wit trendies for instance.
Formal situations suck big time for me, such as interviews, the harder I try the blanker my mind goes.
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: MovingTarget]
#4157157 - 05/10/05 11:26 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sometimes I have to restrain myself for talking about stuff I know and have done so as not to appear big headed.
And muppet, S&P is for anyone, just dont try so hard and say what you feel.
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
#4157159 - 05/10/05 11:26 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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SHEIKofSHIITAKE said: I agree, I feel in order to talk in realife you need to have a conection or an interest that the group can shaire and talk about. I for one when im with a crowd am often a quiet observer with maners that doesnt cut people off. So there fore i never get much time to speak. Online on here There is no waiting turn for he loud mouths. There are common ideas we all prety much shaire and our thoughts can flow easily together.
couldn't have said it better myself
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: MovingTarget]
#4157167 - 05/10/05 11:29 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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a lot of it also has to do with social axiety. my gf has this and i realize most people go undiagnosed. she refuses to go through the drive through or anything like that. anything with more than like 5 people around is bad also. i dont understand it personally but whatever.
i can kind of relate to being able to get my thoughts out on paper better than i can when i talk tho. i could write a book right now if i wanted to...but if i was talking istead of typing is would probably sound pretty dumb lol.
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: MovingTarget]
#4157206 - 05/10/05 11:37 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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every time I try to walk the ol S&P route - I always wind up being missinterpreted though
it's like I can never quite seem to get out the ideas I'm trying to portray, and every thread I start always seems to morph into something completely different then what I was attempting to talk about in the first place
like how just recently here I noticed a sorta 'group' of people who seem to be the direct result of mindless following (in some form or another) and who always go around 'doing the right thing' and fixing shit that they've been told were problems, and all that other nice crap...but because I wasn't able to convey my ideas effectively enough - it turned into a debate about whether or not people should even bother attempting to make things better
I apparently don't have the ability to get people on the same page as me when it comes to vague subjects
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: Muppet]
#4157266 - 05/10/05 11:51 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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I understand the people you were talking about, and it is annoying when people try to be heroes by messing in business that isnt there own. Its still ok to help in some situations, but its a fine line. Generally its the people who blindly follow rules without thought is what you were getting at?
As for S&P, just take your time
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: Muppet]
#4157268 - 05/10/05 11:52 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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This might have to do even with how Tod left. We feel disoriented when we get into groups of people and socialise because we feel more at home here. The key is to find people on the same page in and around our homes and embrace them.
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: MovingTarget]
#4157437 - 05/10/05 12:28 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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MovingTarget said: I understand the people you were talking about, and it is annoying when people try to be heroes by messing in business that isnt there own. Its still ok to help in some situations, but its a fine line. Generally its the people who blindly follow rules without thought is what you were getting at?
As for S&P, just take your time
exactly!
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Muppet
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: Muppet]
#4157778 - 05/10/05 01:40 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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something I do know for a fact though is that I can't come up with my own shit to talk about
like I can carry on a continuing conversation just fine, but I can't choose my own subject material...because, quite frankly, I put pretty much the same value on just about evrything (par exampla: award ceremonies are just about as exciting to me as watching mold grow)
never knowing what's important to somebody always leaves me pluckin staws trying to find some sort of connection...and more often then not - the people I'm trying to reach out to get bored because their 'needs' aren't imediately being taken care of, and they move on to find someone that can jump right into it with em
I think what really gets to me though is that often times it seems as though I can feel some sort of a connection between em, but I'm just not able to 'set the hook' (so to speak)
like I find myself surrounded by people I know I can reach out to, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to hold their attention span long enough to show em that I actually have something to offer
it's sad really
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: Muppet]
#4157783 - 05/10/05 01:42 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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but I'm just whining now
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: Muppet]
#4157806 - 05/10/05 01:49 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Slowly I have been moving away from the social scene, even with my friends who I was very close with say a year ago. I don't know what has happened to me, but I simply don't enjoy being around some people as much. It's always my perception that the conversations are forced, or its simply dead silent. I'd rather be by myself then be having what seems to be a forced conversation, or what I perceive as awkward silence. I do have a few people, such as my closest male friend and my girlfriend that I can talk and talk to. This is because the conversations don't seem forced and I genuinly have a lot in common with these people. Ever since I've been movign away from being social I have this gut feeling that something is wrong with me, and it isn't what I should be doing. That is just half of me though, the other half thinks this is exactly what I need to be doing since the other people are just not my type of people anymore. Either way, I can relate to what many have been feeling here I think. I hope all of that came across okay.
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: T85]
#4157814 - 05/10/05 01:51 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Also, in situations with people I don't know I get VERY nervous to talk to them. Like shaking in my boots nervous, so it is possible I have some degree of social anxiety. Does anyone know what the medication they would put me on if I was diagnosed with this? I really don't want to take anything so I have avoided going to a shrink.
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: Muppet]
#4157867 - 05/10/05 02:06 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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In many cases, it's often an emotional block to creativity [intellectual play, childlikeness, naivete', etc], and is a form of neurosis.
Such a block is a sign of immobility. Generally people are immobilized out of fear, fear of what has happened in the past, and/or what could happen in the future. Ironically, both of the polarities: past and future, equal each other in insubstantiality. The only actuality is that which lies between the two: Here and Now.
?Is it possible to end all fear? One may be afraid of the dark, or of coming suddenly upon a snake, or of meeting some wild animal, or of falling over a precipice. It is natural and healthy to want to stay out of the way of an oncoming bus, for example, but there are many other forms of fear. That is why one has to go into this question of whether the idea is more important than the fact, the what is. If one looks at what is, at the fact, and not at the idea, one will see that it is only the idea, the concept of the future, of tomorrow, that is creating fear. It is not the fact that creates fear.?
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
#4157888 - 05/10/05 02:16 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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The more you socialise the easier it becomes
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: T85]
#4157900 - 05/10/05 02:23 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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T85 said: Slowly I have been moving away from the social scene, even with my friends who I was very close with say a year ago. I don't know what has happened to me, but I simply don't enjoy being around some people as much. It's always my perception that the conversations are forced, or its simply dead silent. I'd rather be by myself then be having what seems to be a forced conversation, or what I perceive as awkward silence. I do have a few people, such as my closest male friend and my girlfriend that I can talk and talk to. This is because the conversations don't seem forced and I genuinly have a lot in common with these people. Ever since I've been movign away from being social I have this gut feeling that something is wrong with me, and it isn't what I should be doing. That is just half of me though, the other half thinks this is exactly what I need to be doing since the other people are just not my type of people anymore. Either way, I can relate to what many have been feeling here I think. I hope all of that came across okay.
sounds like my two personalities sharing their own views on pretty much any situation I come across
it's odd how they can both be so completely differnt from eachother, yet still manage to meld so fluidly
the universe is certainly a crazy ass place like that though
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: MovingTarget]
#4157905 - 05/10/05 02:25 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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MovingTarget said: The more you socialise the easier it becomes
I've suspected that many a times myself
haven't been able to prove it yet...but 'suspect' I certainly do
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Re: not deep enough for S&P and entirely too drawn out for OTD [Re: Muppet]
#4158007 - 05/10/05 02:58 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Some people you just cant reach.
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