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Trichocereus Grandiflorous
    #4155116 - 05/09/05 11:15 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I've been seeing these cacti everywhere, and they caught my attention right away. I tried searching Google for their alkaloid content, to find: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1638320/

Apparently it's low in activity. "I think thats from M.S.Smith's book where he also says that an unconfirmed bioassay left the impression of there being activity, but no real analysis has been done, to my knowledge."

But the list of active cacti over at the Nook leaves out T. Grandiflorous. http://archives.thenook.org/tek/activecacti.htm
Entry #10 is Cactus grandiflorous... not sure what that's supposed to mean.

Does anybody have more information about the alkaloid content of this species? I'm probably going to pick up a few to grow out, regardless of content.


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Re: Trichocereus Grandiflorous [Re: Letto]
    #4158771 - 05/10/05 08:18 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

*bump*

because I'm interested in the answer as well :laugh:


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Re: Trichocereus Grandiflorous [Re: Psilygirl]
    #4158906 - 05/10/05 08:54 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

If I can't get an answer I think I'll have to buy 5-6 feet of it and do an acid-base extraction. I don't really want to test some mysterious crystals that MIGHT have mescaline though, and I doubt I'll have enough to start with a really low dose then work my way up Shulgin style. Hopefully someone knows.


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Re: Trichocereus Grandiflorous [Re: Letto]
    #4159064 - 05/10/05 09:31 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

t. grandiflorus isn't specially known by containing mescaline content, like other cacti of this genus, i cannot find the link anymore and i might be mistaken but if i'm not mistaken it contains 5meo_dmt and/or n,ndmt, unlike any of his relatives...
i wouldn't recommend a bioassay, a chemical analysis is the right way...


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Re: Trichocereus Grandiflorous [Re: felixhigh]
    #4159164 - 05/10/05 09:48 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Here's what I found in a cached Google page:
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"I think this is the one that Shulgin mistakenly thought might contain DMT and then later retracted that thinking it was contaminated lab glassware or something."

I can't find anything else mentioning Shulgin's findings. I don't know where I could get a chemical analysis for a sample (hopefully) containing scheduled compounds. If I do (and I've been meaning to look), then I'll definitely get an analysis performed.


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Re: Trichocereus Grandiflorous [Re: Letto]
    #4163790 - 05/11/05 10:32 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

oh yeah, you're on the right path.
they thought it could be contaminated glassware but that's a damn lousy job right? dmt doesn't sticks like an alien lifeform, is very easy to clean, has a low melting point...
anyways, it is not that hard to find out. recently someone has ran and posted some mass spectometer analysis of LSA containing seeds, the t. grandiflorus is only one out of many plants to be looked into... but not less interesting by that!
i would say... get a couple or so and grow them. the red flowers must be pretty. i don't expect much... i would rather look into white flowered cacti of the same genus... :wink:


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