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OfflinePapa_Smurff
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The Fabled "Z" strain
    #4150109 - 05/08/05 02:10 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Ive heard a lot of hype from friends and websites about the Z strain. It just sounds to good to be true, high yields, fast growth, fast colonization, many flushes, and high potency. I just want to know if anybody hear has had any experience growing Z strain and if its worth the money.


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Re: The Fabled "Z" strain [Re: Papa_Smurff]
    #4150119 - 05/08/05 02:14 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Sounds like something made up from the Spore Trading Post.........


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Re: The Fabled "Z" strain [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #4150123 - 05/08/05 02:14 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I'll let Gnostic handle this one...

"A cube is a cube is a cube is a cube"

:smile:


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Re: The Fabled "Z" strain [Re: Papa_Smurff]
    #4150125 - 05/08/05 02:15 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I think there all pretty much the same besides a few differences on looks, I think it really depends on the conditiond in which you grow them and the substrate they are grown from.


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Re: The Fabled "Z" strain [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #4150129 - 05/08/05 02:16 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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mighty_bop said:

Sounds like something made up from the Spore Trading Post.........




It was!~

actually this was a strain that was renamed by the Keeper(shane67) from the Spore Trading Post.

God only knows what it really is.

:smirk:


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Re: The Fabled "Z" strain [Re: Roadkill]
    #4150133 - 05/08/05 02:18 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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God only knows what it really is.

:smirk:




Exactly, who knows what half of these strains are anymore.

All I can say is that if you take any cubensis, grow it out on horse poo correctly, then you'll get all the characteristics you described; big flushes, potent shrooms, etc.  Substrate > strain.


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Re: The Fabled "Z" strain [Re: o0brandnewcolony]
    #4150143 - 05/08/05 02:23 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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o0brandnewcolony said:
I'll let Gnostic handle this one...

"A cube is a cube is a cube is a cube"

:smile:




unless that cube is penis envy  :grin:


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Re: The Fabled "Z" strain [Re: starseed1066]
    #4150148 - 05/08/05 02:24 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Why so?


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Re: The Fabled "Z" strain [Re: o0brandnewcolony]
    #4150803 - 05/08/05 07:46 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Not so. Z strain from multi spore going over two weeks some jars not quite 50%colonized. B4 you say its the conditions...or bunk spores. all jars prepared at the same time the same way. half the jars were shaken to disperse multi spore. other half were not. those jars were seperated again into two groups and left to incubate in two different chambers. all jars performing about the same. (Note: the jars that were shaken have better colonization)
Same batch of grain jars were used to inoculate with lc an unknown strain of cubes. within 4 days jars are almost fully colonized.
The z strain was over ten days to show any growth at all.
A cube is a cube is a cube only if they are all the same strain.


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Re: The Fabled "Z" strain [Re: brewwhaha1]
    #4150847 - 05/08/05 08:06 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

A cube is a cube is BS.

The Zs from ralphs (if you dont have the genetics, you dont know you got Z's, mine were from Ralphs and EXACTLY as described on the website)are the best strain so far of 16 cubies hands down. Most of the other stains were similar, but a few strains really stand out..a cube is a cube just aint true.


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Casing layer colonization and overlay


Edited by scatmanrav (05/08/05 08:22 PM)


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Re: The Fabled "Z" strain [Re: brewwhaha1]
    #4150855 - 05/08/05 08:09 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

i got growth in 2 days and full colinization in 13 days in 6 jars with z strain with verm and brf as the substrate. I birthed them last monday and got a single pin on tuesday (the cap will probably open tomorrow) and today most recently a bunch of pins started showing up after i dunk and rolled them. i'm anxious to try another strain to see how it holds up in the same conditions. i've also read that the z is basically a gt?


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Re: The Fabled "Z" strain [Re: steve78]
    #4150869 - 05/08/05 08:14 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

When the majority of you report colonization times, it is based on BRF cakes.  Cakes are horrible, they are way too easy to screw up the moisture content with, and I don't feel that accurate comparisons can be given when cakes are involved.  When someone reports colonization times on their BRF cakes, I usually disregard it.  Like we don't have enough variables to throw off accurate results already, then you toss those terrible cake things in the equation.  Bah!  :tongue:

*edit* Steve78 I wasn't replying to you, I'm just speaking in general here. :smile:


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Re: The Fabled "Z" strain [Re: Holydiver]
    #4154070 - 05/09/05 06:13 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I get 8-12 days colonization time for half pint PF cakes with both EQ and Malabar...


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Re: The Fabled "Z" strain [Re: cubicidal]
    #4154102 - 05/09/05 06:22 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

A cube is a cube is a blah blah blah...

Different strains are somewhat different. A cube from South Asia is different from a cube in North America. Period.

However, colonization times, yeilds, and everything else majorly depend on your setup. A PF cake with Z's will not colonize @ the same rate as the Z's on rye. Period.


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Re: The Fabled "Z" strain [Re: cubicidal]
    #4154105 - 05/09/05 06:22 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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cubicidal said:

I get 8-12 days colonization time for half pint PF cakes with both EQ and Malabar...




nice!~

the South American is very fast too.

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some strains are faster at colonizing than others.

some strains look different than others.

some have different effects...trip wise.

but almost all cubes have the same growing perimeter's.


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Re: The Fabled "Z" strain [Re: o0brandnewcolony]
    #4154124 - 05/09/05 06:26 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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o0brandnewcolony said:
I'll let Gnostic handle this one...

"A cube is a cube is a cube is a cube"

:smile:





This is a fable. A Pesa has colorful trips, while mpals have color flashes. Burma's are real smooth and Lipa Yai are kinda violent. Most (not all) strains have very different physical characteristics. So they aren't all the same. The real Z strain is not hype, it is very ropey and colonizes very quickly. It's the perfect strain for a newbie. Just my .02 ....... :grin:


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Re: The Fabled "Z" strain [Re: Juan_del_Pueblo]
    #4154275 - 05/09/05 07:04 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

>but almost all cubes have the same growing perimeter's.

This is true, and this is the reason people say a cube is a cube...its for growth parameters. Like "What do I do to grow this strain?". In that case, a cube is a cube. But when your talking yeilds, looks, trip, and growing quirks (such as abort percentage, size of fruit, pinset ect).....


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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