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1st casing LoG - Strain -->TBD
    #4149963 - 05/08/05 01:19 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

  k, So I'm a noobie with considerable knowledge of the basic's. I'm going to list my planned setup from a-z, hopeing to get some feedback on how well this will workout.

  So...if I get the following:
QUEEN OF HEARTS-kit
THE GOLDEN TEACHER

k...from what I understand this is ALL I'll need, so I just have a couple question's. Spore syringe's, or print's? How many syringes would I need to fill that kit? ThX for any help  :stoned:


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Re: allinone [Re: TheStudent]
    #4149986 - 05/08/05 01:25 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

you need at least one :wink:


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Re: allinone [Re: TheStudent]
    #4150013 - 05/08/05 01:31 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Don't buy the grow kit!~

make your own...they are easy to make...and 20 times cheaper than that.

buy your Spore Syringes from one of the Shroomery Vendors.

http://www.shroomery.org/sponsors.php

take care!~


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Re: allinone [Re: Roadkill]
    #4150023 - 05/08/05 01:35 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

550$ PLUS SHIPPING!?! ?!?!?!?!?!?!


NO.. that's a negatory on that one dude.

For more 1/2 of that you can get a setup 10x better. Looks like it would work BUT what a ripoff. Take some time and assemble all those yourself, you'll save yourself a bundle.

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Re: allinone [Re: kira]
    #4150027 - 05/08/05 01:36 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

do not buy that kit.
they are selling you things that you can buy locally:
the tubs
the casing material (vermiculite & peat moss)
oyster shells
jars
substrate (brf)
white rabbit? you can get one of those at a pet store.

that kits like $500+!!!
you should not have to spend that much money.

kits don't provide convenience,
they prey on ignorance (meaning a lack of knowledge) <no offense intended, grasshopper.


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Re: allinone [Re: Roadkill]
    #4150033 - 05/08/05 01:39 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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buy your Spore Syringes from one of the Shroomery Vendors.
http://www.shroomery.org/sponsors.php




:werd:

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Re: allinone [Re: psilocyben]
    #4150056 - 05/08/05 01:48 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

k, I'll look for a guid on building my own tank. The site I picked for the Spores was the #1 site listed on youre sponsor page =))

So I guess the only question I really have left is how much can 1 syringe do? is there a ratio or syringe/gallon or something I can go by?


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Re: allinone [Re: TheStudent]
    #4150064 - 05/08/05 01:50 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Usually you can do 1cc per pint to quart jar depending on what direction your wanting to go with your grow, i.e. grains or BRF cakes. So one syringe could inoculate 10-12 jars at 1 cc, some people use 1/2 cc and have no problems.


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Re: allinone [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #4150079 - 05/08/05 01:56 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Usually you can do 1cc per pint to quart jar depending on what direction your wanting to go with your grow, i.e. grains or BRF cakes. So one syringe could inoculate 10-12 jars at 1 cc, some people use 1/2 cc and have no problems.




Awsome, thX for the info everyone. Muchly appriciated.


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Re: allinone [Re: TheStudent]
    #4150087 - 05/08/05 01:59 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

what the hawk said!~

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you could do the Karo Tek and take 1cc of spores from the syringe and turn that into 100cc of LC.

but stick to the basics for now.

get your spores and your supplies.

and read the PF tek

tc


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Re: allinone [Re: Roadkill]
    #4150091 - 05/08/05 02:02 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

You could also just save the last cc, and then while waiting for your jars to colonize read up and the karo tek and use that last cc. The karo tek is fairly easy man, there are teks for it here at the shroomery, do need a pressure cooker though, just go to wallyworld and but a cheap one.


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Re: allinone [Re: TheStudent]
    #4150096 - 05/08/05 02:04 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

yeah with all the money you will save from not buying that kit...buy a good pressure cooker!~

you won't be sorry!~


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Re: allinone [Re: Roadkill]
    #4150104 - 05/08/05 02:08 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

what's the Karo Tek? =))


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Re: allinone [Re: TheStudent]
    #4150120 - 05/08/05 02:14 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

TheStudent said:

what's the Karo Tek? =))




this is the honey water tek...its the same thing..but use Karo instead of honey.

http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/8005

4cc's karo light
96cc's of warm water.
stirr it up really good.
put a marble into the jar...to break up the mycelium later.
put your lid on.
pressure cook it for 30 mins at 15 psi, or 45 at 10 psi.
after you are done pressure cooking the jar...let it cool down.
after it has cooled down inoculate with 1cc or 2cc's...from your spore syringe.
swirl the jar around a little to mix the spores into the karo water.
then put into your incubator...81 to 84 degrees F.

the jar will come out looking like this when it is colonized.


take care!~


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Re: allinone [Re: Roadkill]
    #4150138 - 05/08/05 02:22 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

k,how would something like this be:
KARO

p.s. I wouldent actually buy it there, just want to make sure i get the rite stuff as i've never heard of Karo before.


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Re: allinone [Re: TheStudent]
    #4150171 - 05/08/05 02:31 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

yeah thats exactly what you want. Although that gallon of it would last you your life time and another one if all your using it for is to make karo jars. You can find it at yourlocal grocery store.


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Re: allinone [Re: Roadkill]
    #4151382 - 05/08/05 10:56 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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the jar will come out looking like this when it is colonized.


take care!~




k, now that jar...is it full of liquid? or is it jelly like? I'm curiouse how I would disperse that into a casing. how high would you say the quality of this stuff is?


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Re: allinone [Re: TheStudent]
    #4151393 - 05/08/05 11:00 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

That jar is full of karo liquid (or whatever nute) and mycelium. Spores germinate and grow mycelium..put spores in sugar water (karo, honey, Malt, dextrose ect) and they germinate and eat the sugar and grow. Then you shake that all up and break it into tons of peices, and suck it up into a syringe. Shoot a cc or 3 into a quart of grain and the small shreads of mycelium will grow out and colonize the whole jar. This means two things..1) ery quick colonization because the spores dont have to germinate on the grain, they did it in the sugar water...and 2) 1cc of spores turns into a jar like that one pictured, which can make 20 of these FAST syringes. Turning 1 10cc of spores into 200 mycelium syringes easily.


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Re: allinone [Re: TheStudent]
    #4151402 - 05/08/05 11:03 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

inside the jar should be some glass or other material to break the large glob up into smaller pieces, from there shat the hell out of it and suck it up with a syringe, us that to inoculate some jars, incubate and once it's 100% colonized
you can make a casing from that

quality... it's the best and fastest for innoculating a jar of substrate.


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Re: allinone [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #4151473 - 05/08/05 11:17 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

wow...sound's like a good deal, thx everyone. I'll take a look around on some step by step's on this one.


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