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OfflineBlueDogAnchorite
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Salvia 40x extracts
    #4148323 - 05/07/05 11:07 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Has anyone tried these yet? About 9 months ago the horse killer was the only 40x extract that I could find and that didn't work even though I was using a torch lighter.

If you've had any luck with any of the 40x extracts can you say where you got them from please?


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Re: Salvia 40x extracts [Re: BlueDogAnchorite]
    #4148470 - 05/07/05 11:52 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Salvia has a revers tolerence. That means the more your smoke it the less it takes. I wouldn't go for 40x maybe 10x or 20x


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Re: Salvia 40x extracts [Re: BlueDogAnchorite]
    #4149085 - 05/08/05 03:19 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

40x?!

Holy crap I didn't know they made that.


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Re: Salvia 40x extracts [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #4160164 - 05/11/05 01:40 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

the idea of being a"hardhead"seems to me more a case of not smoking it properly.i recently discovered salvia and decided to "test"it on 11 people.i chose that number to rule out a lucky few in a rows.being the non jerk i am i had to know if works so i was first test subject.NOTE.1-regular normal pipe,normal lighter,and 1gram 5x.1 tiny pinch in the bowl.the key is to hit it like u r 16 with your first joint.suck the flame into the bowl throughout the entire hit.set down the bowl and SLOWLY count to 30 (one one thousand,ect)exhale and hang the hell on.you MIGHT have to hit again but out of the 11 and myself only 2 were able to.Everyone that hit it got off 1st time no problem.it helps to have someone hold the pipe and flame it for you.i later on tried the 17x which is too much it seems.conclusion--it does work,5x can and will kick your ass if used properly.have yet to find a hardhead.all 12 (me included)have had level 4 and above first time out


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Re: Salvia 40x extracts [Re: shamanvision]
    #4160188 - 05/11/05 01:44 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

on a side note most of the 12 complained that they felt that the left side of their bodies felt like they were being sandblasted with burning sand.all 11 and myself noted a depressed feeling that took a day or so to go away.if you must try the 40x then be prepared to have your ass handed to you.........peace


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Re: Salvia 40x extracts [Re: shamanvision]
    #4161064 - 05/11/05 10:31 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

all 12 had the left side sandblasted?
when smoking and getting off werethey all in the same seat? in the same position or orientation to something in the environment? a light bulb, window, air vent, birdcage...

dissociated and depressed can seem similar, all the mental filters not yet fully recombined to a seamless continuity...


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Re: Salvia 40x extracts [Re: redgreenvines]
    #4162207 - 05/11/05 04:36 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

or it could be depression.

i think the tendency is to say that drugs dont have any negative side effects. I've often had hallucinogen trips that have left me w/ negative feelings the next day or few days. Realizations made under the influence often stick with you for awhile.


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Re: Salvia 40x extracts [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #4167539 - 05/12/05 07:21 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

the 12 were in 3 different houses some day some night,and noone out of the 12 will touch it again


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Re: Salvia 40x extracts [Re: shamanvision]
    #4167553 - 05/12/05 07:24 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

all 12 felt the same thing as far as the sandblasting.another thing i noticed was 3 of the 12 were getting hostile toward the end of the trip.they felt that the others were in on some big joke at their expense.


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Re: Salvia 40x extracts [Re: shamanvision]
    #4167574 - 05/12/05 07:29 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

one hit it and as soon as he let it out he said"what did you give me?"some had to be constantly reminded what they took.as far as i am concerned i had a bit of a struggle breathing at the peak.As far as the depressed feeling all were fine the next day.


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Re: Salvia 40x extracts [Re: shamanvision]
    #4167612 - 05/12/05 07:43 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

yes i can second that salvia is all in the technique, atleast more than the x. I have hit pure salvinorin crystals before with good technique and im truelly suprised that i didnt get myself killed.

I wouldnt say its a depression but more of an after shock from the high anxiety trip. This effect goes away with practice in controlling it. meditation helps all aspects of the trip.


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Re: Salvia 40x extracts [Re: TheHook]
    #4190039 - 05/18/05 08:12 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Yah, I realize that technique is important, I've had some 20x from I am shaman, that worked on most us. Unfortunately because one of my friends and I don't even smoke cigarettes, our somewhat virgin lungs made it impossible for any strong effect (although it still had quite a strong effect I just had to waste a great deal).

I want to try again with a good quality 40x extract, after I'm stoned and maybe on a dose of mushrooms. If I've smoked a fair bit then my lungs will hopefully be in a better state to handle the salvia fumes.

I was akin about the 40x because because over 9 months ago when not many vendors had it, the stuff I got was completely worthless. That was the "horse kicker".

So you see, know that I find 40x extracts far more readily available I am a bit hesitant to trust them.

If you had sauces from 40x extracts, can you say where you got them from please? I would get it from Iamshaman but they don't sell them yet...


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Re: Salvia 40x extracts [Re: BlueDogAnchorite]
    #4190130 - 05/18/05 09:40 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Shroomery vendors. Shamans Palace. I have had good results with saliva from this company, and they sell 40x.


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Re: Salvia 40x extracts [Re: Heffy]
    #4190912 - 05/18/05 02:48 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, I'm hesitant to try salvia because it seems way too harsh, if none of the twelve people wanted to try it again, it means it wasn't enjoyable..


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Re: Salvia 40x extracts [Re: ryanvergel]
    #4191137 - 05/18/05 03:44 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

It can be. It's just most of the time its extremely intense.

She seems to scare a lot of people away.


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Re: Salvia 40x extracts [Re: Trainwreck]
    #4192353 - 05/18/05 08:09 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

many years ago i used to know someone who could make there own 80x-110x extract with semifrozen isopropol alcohol, i think he actually wrote a guide somewhere on the internet, ill see if i can find it.

but anyway, he used to strap himself into a chair before he would smoke the 80x, because even for someone as experienced as he was, 80x was nothing to fool around with.


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