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Ythan
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Please help us tweak the dosage calculator!
#4146187 - 05/07/05 12:17 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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One feature that's popular with many new members is our dosage calculator, a small Javascript program which tells you how many mushrooms you must eat to achieve a desired trip strength. I wrote this script many years ago and took the variables from a number of sources, including anecdotal reports. The calculator works surprisingly well considering the unscientific process by which it was created, however Anno recently undertook a project to improve the program's scope and accuracy. The new script has information for additional mushrooms and updated potency data, and some uncommon species were removed. However, in order to finalize the new version we need your help!
We are requesting any potency information you may have for the following:
Psilocybe tampanensis mushrooms and sclerotia Psilocybe mexicana mushrooms and sclerotia Panaeolus subbalteatus
This information can take the form of subjective trip reports or pure scientific data if you have it. You can post in this thread or PM Anno directly. Please make sure to compare the potency to any other species or strains you've tried so we can get a sense of how mushrooms uniquely affect you.
Thanks everyone for helping us continue to improve our resources!
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Re: Please help us tweak the dosage calculator! *DELETED* [Re: Ythan]
#4150187 - 05/08/05 12:37 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Anno
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Re: Please help us tweak the dosage calculator! [Re: Supernova]
#4150587 - 05/08/05 03:48 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/anno/calculator.htm
I have quite some analysis data for this species which suggest a ~2x potency over P. cubensis.
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Re: Please help us tweak the dosage calculator! [Re: Anno]
#4158926 - 05/10/05 07:00 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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>Psilocybe tampanensis mushrooms
About 2x+ the potency of cubensis, very similar potency and trip (different then cubies slightly) to Pan Cyan Austrailians, had 1 and 1.5 gram trips of both, both grams and gram and a half trips matched eachother pretty well.
I have not tried the stones myself, but my friend who I gave them too compared them (fresh) to twice the potency of fresh cubies. 10 Grams of stones was like 20 grams of cubies. When dried, that would be 4 grams of stones, and 2 grams of cubies (only 60% water weight instead of 90) so the potency would be reversed. I havnt had enough Tamp stones to dry any (there were two doses, 10 and 12 grams fresh) so thats assumption...but it makes sense if they are 60% water weight.
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Re: Please help us tweak the dosage calculator! [Re: scatmanrav]
#4159212 - 05/10/05 07:55 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hum, has anyone really ever attempted a level 5 trip? Why waste the shrooms just take a maoi inhibitor before taking the shrooms and there u go.
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Re: Please help us tweak the dosage calculator! [Re: Fluxburn]
#4160551 - 05/11/05 01:59 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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>just take a maoi inhibitor
Because fuck that. I grow my shrooms, I'll eat my shrooms, and thats all I'll eat..except the occasional LSD. I think my next trip will be 2.5 Pan Cyans...I think that should approach level 5.
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Re: Please help us tweak the dosage calculator! [Re: scatmanrav]
#4163576 - 05/11/05 07:44 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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taking an MAOI doesnt only intensify a trip, it adds a new dynamic to it. Some people desire a level 5 trip using psilocybin only.
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Re: Please help us tweak the dosage calculator! [Re: Supernova]
#4165131 - 05/12/05 01:52 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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>I typically dose on around 10 to 12 dry grams of cubenis
Wow, that's a lot to take. Either the mushrooms you have a very weak, or you have a great tolerance towards psilocin.
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Re: Please help us tweak the dosage calculator! [Re: Anno]
#4166471 - 05/12/05 01:30 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Or he gets a hell of a trip!
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Does anyone know the differences in potency between cubensis species? What i mean is i received a messed up koh samui (meant to be strong for a cubensis) print and now i have only thai, GT, and PF cubensis', should i be bothered?
And dosage wise i must be pretty resistant 'cos i had to take 45g fresh PFs for level 2
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Re: Please help us tweak the dosage calculator! [Re: HyphalTryptamin]
#4173998 - 05/14/05 09:12 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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You mean Psilocybe cubensis strains?
The differences are small, affected by the substrate composition, cultivation parameters and last but not least the different genetics of the different strains.
All those factors make it very hard, if not impossible, to make a general potency claims for different strains within one species.
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Re: Please help us tweak the dosage calculator! [Re: Ythan]
#4177477 - 05/15/05 08:50 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Very good idea!
Here are some results from a dutch research:
I think the tampanensis in the second table is the sclerotia of the Psilocybe tampanensis, because that is what is sold in most dutch smartshops and the dry to fresh weight ratio is very high.
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Re: Please help us tweak the dosage calculator! [Re: Annom]
#4177486 - 05/15/05 08:58 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes. I already used this data in the new calulator.
What I still need is more data for Psilocybe tampanensis mushrooms Psilocybe mexicana mushrooms and sclerotia Panaeolus subbalteatus and Psilocybe weilii
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Re: Please help us tweak the dosage calculator! [Re: Anno]
#4177601 - 05/15/05 09:48 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Anno said: Yes. I already used this data in the new calulator.
What I still need is more data for Psilocybe tampanensis mushrooms Psilocybe mexicana mushrooms and sclerotia
if it is of any help, on friday one gram of dry tampanensis sclerotia sent me to regions i only was when dosing ~2.5dry of cubensis strain golden teacher..
sure was one interesting experience, even though they sure had a FUCKED UP taste ewwww didnt get that kind of "hot" taste out of my mouth for 20 mins. peace ohm
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Re: Please help us tweak the dosage calculator! [Re: ohmatic]
#4181397 - 05/16/05 07:00 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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i have a few questions about the dosage calculator:
if you take them in pill form, how does the dosage work?
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should you be weighing/eating the entire mushroom? If the psilocybin is only in the cap should you include the entire stem in the dosing as well? Why even eat/count the stem?
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Re: Please help us tweak the dosage calculator! [Re: divinityinfinity]
#4181428 - 05/16/05 07:23 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Dosage is the same for capsules with mushrooms.
Psilocybin is not only in the cap. It's in the cap and stem so you better eat them both.
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Re: Please help us tweak the dosage calculator! [Re: Annom]
#4181458 - 05/16/05 07:42 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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thank you now i know! bahaha i was all ready to throw out da stems.......woa is me
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Re: Please help us tweak the dosage calculator! [Re: divinityinfinity]
#4182139 - 05/16/05 12:26 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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That wouldve been a shame, stems are the best part.
Check with Olgulian on more Tamp mushrooms info...hes grown the most Tamps I've seen. I couldnt find one person who had injested them when I was looking for dosage info on them.
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Re: Please help us tweak the dosage calculator! [Re: scatmanrav]
#4183417 - 05/16/05 05:50 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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stems taste good too
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