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samueljackson
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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: cwbfromtheksvi]
#4138675 - 05/05/05 04:38 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's just hard to accept they are ants, because they "were" last time too. I'll risk getting sick from ants to figure out what is going on.
mjshroomer did you take all the pictures on your website? Have you ever been in the caribbean picking?
I really want to debunk this.
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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: samueljackson]
#4138804 - 05/05/05 05:04 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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They're definatly antillarum but if your that convinced, eat them and please post your experience report
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mjshroomer
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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: samueljackson]
#4139187 - 05/05/05 06:51 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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YEs, 99.999% of all the fotos on my site were taken by me except a few of the mexican varieties of shrooms in my species guide and several Gyms and Inocybves and plutreus are by others.> Any mushroom not photographed by7 me tells who did take them. I have a few Panaeolus sub images but thye one pager of beautiful iamges are from angry Shroom in California and from lizard king. The arcanas were loaned to me and so were the species fromt he baltic states.
All the cubes, etc, cyans copes and psilocybes and all other images and art art from me unless u otherwiswe specified. There are over 7000 images on my site and at leas 6900 of them or more are mine.
And those are Panaeolus antillarums. They uusually grow etither before one species or after and sometimes they are left over in a field when the others began to appear. Rarely, you may find a Cope cyan in the same cow-pie as a Pan antillarum, but that is exteremely rare.
On the other hand, you may collected one or tweo or even three copelanduia species inhabiting the same dung heap, but they are practically impossible to differentiate between them macroscopically.
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No I have not been to the Virgin Islands. Have had a good friend who lived there for years.
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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: mjshroomer]
#4141694 - 05/06/05 10:11 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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The caps look like they bruise, but WTF is with the stems, solid white...anyways you guys are fuckin lucky to live there, tripping there would be INSANE...I fucking hate this place! (except for the free psychedelics)
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samueljackson
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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: meluvshrooms]
#4143535 - 05/06/05 06:02 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah the scenery in those pictures are nice, but don't judge a book by it's cover.
Three murders yesterday, rapes are all over. Drug wars, gang wars, kids getting stabbed right and left.
Getting robbed five times in a month isn't fun either.
And police? give me a f****** break.
But everywhere has its pros and cons, and if you can't see the pros then get the f*** out of there!
EDIT: cleaned language
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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: Ajna_Chakra]
#4143566 - 05/06/05 06:11 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ajna_Chakra said: ugh, dude, maybe it's just me, but considering the current legal climate surrounding mushrooms, I wouldn't post pics of myself with psychedelics in my mouth! haha nice pics though.
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samueljackson
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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: tahoe]
#4143594 - 05/06/05 06:20 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Since meluvshrooms saw the blueing too I took it upon myself to show you guys.
Now the picture below is the EXACT same picture with no alterations except upping the saturation.
What that does is NOT add different colors, but just make them more colorful. The greens greener and the blues bluer.
Notice the blue: (remember :If there was no blue to begin with there wouldn't be any blue from cranking up the saturation)
FULLSIZE: http://www.doosdesigns.com/IMGBLUE.jpg
See the now obvious blueing? You guys can't tell me ants blue!
What is going on here guys? (not sarcasm)
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In the newly saturated picture (fullsize) you can see the base of the stems blueing too.
Makes me god damn happy
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cwbfromtheksvi
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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: samueljackson]
#4143749 - 05/06/05 06:58 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sorry but there isnt any blueing in that photo, saturated or not. I think you may be colorblind. Cyans aren't nicknamed "blue meanies" because you can mistake black and grey as the bruising. They bruise an INTENSE blue, blue/green color that once you see it, you will never mistake that as blueing. Eat them if you want but the contain no psilocybin. Actually, as much as you want to believe they are psychoactive youll probably think your tripping or getting somekind of effect; but its all in your head.
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samueljackson
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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: cwbfromtheksvi]
#4143796 - 05/06/05 07:11 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ok, I don't want this to turn in to a flame fest.
Just to make sure I wasn't colorblind I eyedropped the color and checked out the color wheel. Sure enough it was blue.
I understand they blue an intense blue, that's why I can't believe they are cope cyanescens. I can't believe they are pan ants either because of a previous experience with them AND the blue color on them.
Now wait, before you say anything. There IS blue on that picture.
I also took into note that it could be all in my head so I physically talked to one of my friends. He ate them last time, not knowing whether they would produce desired effects or not, but they did.
I can hardly say a placebo can be as strong as it was. It's not like I've only tripped once either.
Now mabye you can see why I'm confused.
If they are not copes, and they are not ants. Should I make up a name for the name books?
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Lysergic_Milkman
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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: samueljackson]
#4143825 - 05/06/05 07:19 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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That is not bluing in the photos. it looks like spores or gill fragments. But if you tripped then i am confused as well as. Its not impossible to find a new species...
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samueljackson
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But if you tripped then i am confused as well
Glad you understand ^^
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That is not bluing in the photos. it looks like spores or gill fragments.
Can spore and gill fragments be blue on ants? I was under the impression they were black. That could solve alot of the mystery.
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Lysergic_Milkman
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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: samueljackson]
#4143922 - 05/06/05 07:50 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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The black smeared against the grey can easily look like blue or purple.
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mastacheefa
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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: samueljackson]
#4143924 - 05/06/05 07:50 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wouldnt they blue on the stem too if they contained psilocybin? From what I can tell the stems are solid white.
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Lysergic_Milkman
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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: mastacheefa]
#4143940 - 05/06/05 07:58 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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The stems would stain blue if they contained Psilocin, not psilocybin. This fact may prove to be the reason that the shrooms dont blue but still are trippable. unusually high psilocybin content and freakishly low psilocin content. Just a thought...
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samueljackson
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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: mastacheefa]
#4143951 - 05/06/05 08:00 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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on the saturated picture http://www.doosdesigns.com/IMGBLUE.jpg the base of the stem where it is broken off turned a blue.
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The black smeared against the grey can easily look like blue or purple.
Hmm I see what you mean but here is my problem with that.
If you look take black paint, and mix it with grey, it will be a darker grey. Even if it could look blue and not really be, what was on that picture was a shade of blue. I'm not talking about what eyesight perceives, but the actual pigment.
BTW I'm bringing up all these points not because I'm brainwashed into thinking they're active, but because I want to figure out what is going on. If everyone agreed this thread would be dead at page one.
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mastacheefa
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So its psilocin, not psilocybin, that causes a mushroom to bruise blue/green. Very interesting. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
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samueljackson
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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: mastacheefa]
#4143975 - 05/06/05 08:07 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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The stems would stain blue if they contained Psilocin, not psilocybin. This fact may prove to be the reason that the shrooms dont blue but still are trippable. unusually high psilocybin content and freakishly low psilocin content. Just a thought...
That is very interesting indeed.
Do you know any mushrooms that do that or are you just speculating?
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Lysergic_Milkman
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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: samueljackson]
#4143980 - 05/06/05 08:09 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Many psilocybe species dont stain blue at all from lack of psilocin (or almost untracable amounts of it) but are quite potent because of their psilocybin content. Lemme check some references to get exact species real quick...
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Lysergic_Milkman
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Panaeolus Subbalteatus for starters...
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Lysergic_Milkman
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Psilocybe coprophila... guess there isnt as many as i thought. But several species with low psilocin content stain blue only sometimes, and usually not very strongly. but this is not the case with Pa. cyanescens
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